Horry belongs b/c the sheer number of rings on clutch shots. VC is arguably the greatest nba dunker ever.
I think you are explaining what might ultimately get him the HOF, All-Star appearance, if he gets to 9 or 10. He may not be 1st ballot, but he might eventually get in. The one player who I would watch, I think will determine, if Carter gets in or not . . . Bernard King ... great career numbers, only reached the All-Star game 4x and the playoffs 5x.
Carter possibly being in the Hall of Fame is an interesting debate. It's actually one I've gone back and forth on for the last couple of years. The sexy stats are there for sure. He has the scoring average, the total points, All-Star appearances and all of that. He also did kind of usher in a new era in the sport. He took above the rim play to the next level and made the dunk contest fun again for a while. On the other hand, he is a career malcontent and never was the top player on a team that made a deep run into the playoffs. The fact that there are probably many malcontents and several players in the Hall of Fame that were never top dog on a contender bodes well for him.
He'll get in, but not on first ballot, the passage of time heals all his faults, people will forget the bad teams, the choking, the general media apathy towards him post 2002. All that will remain are his stats and accomplishments and he will get in on that.
Every hall of famer except Gilmore, Chambers and Mitch Richmond have 20,000 points...Carter has 20 K right now
Honestly,I feel Iverson has a better chance accomplishment wise to make to the HOF than Carter. I wouldn't vote for either one of them at the end of the day.
He's border line hall of fame. Don't forget his impact in the college game, and also the international game. (Olympics) BASKETBALL hall of fame. Not NBA Hall of Fame.
It's hard to say...he'll probably get in, but I don't think he deserves it. He was a good player, an amazing dunker, but never good enough to win anything significant except all-star votes b/c of his flash. The guy was hurt a lot and a horrible defender...he was labeled soft because he became more and more dependent on his jumper. That's just what I remember anyways...
For some reason, personally, I'm wanting to give wing players a past on winning big or winning alot (little slack). Like, Dominique before him, or even Pistol Pete, The "Iceman" George Gervin, Bernard King, or Tracy McGrady. More times than not, you are not going to see a middle of the road franchise, especially in a small market city that is going to be stacked out with championships or even one. Suiting up for a team in Kansas City, the south, or in Canada is not like suiting up for the Celtics or Lakers, or even a team that has good legacy or revenue to go out acquire high-caliber free agent and talent (all while being able to keep as they progressed in their careers). Cowherd, Colin (with ESPN) rather blindly labeled Durant as overrated, and saying like Gervin, just another scorer on a bad team. It's misguided argument sometimes. For one, most bad teams are not going to be able to afford to put quality talent around a star. Leading the league in scoring is leading the league in scoring, regardless what team you play on. For one you are playing all of the other teams that all of the other players are playing against. Above all of that, Gervin was a deadly, efficient high scoring wing whose team was pretty competitive (mainly because of him) and perennial playoff team. Though, it is kind of silly to think they would be good enough to beat the Lakers or Supersonics at that time. OT: He was wrong about Durant, anyway, as he was wrong about Wall and Rose. There's no way he watches the NBA closely or means what he said in reality.
Carter will make it in, probably not first ballot, but he will make it. Guys like tmac, hill, penny, are the unknowns. Short but great professional careers. Though Hill did have an outstanding collegiate career so that could get him in.
I loved his talent,and he fought through pain. He also overachieved and made it to the NBA finals and had great stats. He did not carry himself like a professional many times in his career, and did not go out in a dignified manner. That to me is more important.
Yes VC will be in the hall of fame. It's not too difficult to make it in if you are an all-star. A previous poster put it very well. If Dominique Wilkens made the HOF, so should Vinsanity. Nique has no accomplishments other than all-star appearances and dunk contest titles.
Does Vince Carter belong to the HOF? Let's ask this question, do some of our "beloved" ex-rockets belong to the HOF? T-mac - 2 time scoring champion; major playoffs failure. Yao - global icon; poor playoffs performance. Artest - one time defensive player and nba champion; hated by Stein Carter was actually a major force in Toronto and brought the team to eastern conference finals once. Like Yao, injuries hurt his career. If Yao was inducted, Carter should be considered as well. Whereas T-mac due to his poor playoffs results and Artest, the Palace incident, don't think they have a chance.
