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Does this call for expulsion from public high school?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by OldManBernie, Apr 23, 2007.

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  1. DaDakota

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    Exactly, all of my games are influenced by my life.

    I am tempted to do a FPS, where people submit their own maps, be it school or downtown.....IT IS JUST A GAME !

    DD
     
  2. NewYorker

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    This is the ultimate perversion of a PC culture gone crazy.

    When intolerance of the exchange of free ideas in order to "protect" feelings and appearances - our democracy is in trouble.

    American innovation may be dying right before our eyes.
     
  3. superden

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    The kid's family goes to my church. I don't know him personally, but this is pretty messed up.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    Mother Shoots Toy Gun at Kindergarten Class
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267043,00.html
    Thursday , April 19, 2007

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    CHURCH HILL, Tenn. —
    A mother of a kindergarten student was charged with assault Thursday and banned from a school after officials said she walked into a classroom, pointed a toy gun at students and pulled the trigger several times.

    The incident happened Tuesday, a day after the shootings at Virginia Tech, and scared teachers and students.

    Church Hill police and Hawkins County school officials met with Heather Nicole Berg, 26, earlier Thursday before charging her with misdemeanor assault. She was already banned from Church Hill Elementary School for one year.

    Berg had a "silver toy cap gun," police said.

    "A staff member and several children initially thought the gun was real and were fearful," police chief Mark Johnson and detective Dustin Dean said in a press release.

    Police said they could not release details of Berg's statement about why she had the gun at the school.

    "Nevertheless, Berg's actions constituted a monumental lapse in judgment," the release said. "After completing the interview and consulting with the DA's office, we have charged Berg with assault. It is our contention that her actions caused others to 'reasonably fear imminent bodily injury."'

    School officials said the woman and another small child went to her student's classroom to pay for an upcoming field trip, and the incident happened when the teacher turned around to log in the payment.

    "The mom walked in toward the middle of the classroom, and the teacher heard this click, click, click, click -- like four to six times," school principal Jean Heise said. "A teacher's assistant witnessed her take a gun and point it directly toward four to five kids. With everything that's happened the last couple of days, she (the assistant) was just in shock."

    She then left with the small child and took the gun with her.

    Heise immediately called the police. Later, she apologized to the principal and said, "I didn't mean any harm," Heise said.

    Berg was set to appear in Hawkins County General Sessions Court in Rogersville on April 30. If convicted, she could face up to a year in prison and a maximum fine of $2,500.

    Church Hill is about nine miles west of Kingsport, along the Virginia border.

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    The mother was definitely stupid and in poor taste, but charging her with "assault" is also r****ded.
     
  5. rhadamanthus

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    well they need to charge her w/ something. too bad stupidity isnt a felony.
     
  7. HayesStreet

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    If they hadn't expelled him and two months from now he came in and shot up the school, would we say 'geez he made a freakin shoot'em up game with his high school mapped out, the administration knew about it and did nothing!' I don't know if we have enough information to make an assessment one way or another, but we should at least recognize the bad situation the school is put in.
     
  8. ico4498

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    if genius wonderkid came to school blasting one day ...

    all his current supporters would be up in arms wondering why the school district didn't respond to the obvious "signs".
     
  9. langal

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    I'm more impressed by the fact some highschool kid made a 1st person shooter...

    I wonder if he included actual students/faculty in the game.
     
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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...82.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
    Student writes essay, arrested by police

    By Jeff Long and Carolyn Starks
    Tribune staff reporters
    Published April 26, 2007

    High school senior Allen Lee sat down with his creative writing class on Monday and penned an essay that so disturbed his teacher, school administrators and police that he was charged with disorderly conduct.

    "I understand what happened recently at Virginia Tech," said the teen's father, Albert Lee, referring to last week's massacre of 32 students by gunman Seung-Hui Cho. "I understand the situation."

    But he added: "I don't see how somebody can get charged by writing in their homework. The teacher asked them to express themselves, and he followed instructions."

    Allen Lee, an 18-year-old straight-A student at Cary-Grove High School, was arrested Tuesday near his home and charged with disorderly conduct for an essay police described as violently disturbing but not directed toward any specific person or location.

    The youth's father said his son was not suspended or expelled but was forced to attend classes elsewhere for now.

    Today, Cary-Grove students rallied behind the arrested teen by organizing a petition drive to let him back in their school. They posted on walls quotes from the English teacher in which she had encouraged students to express their emotions through writing.

    "I'm not going to lie. I signed the petition," said senior James Gitzinger. "But I can understand where the administration is coming from. I think I would react the same way if I was a teacher."

    Cary Police Chief Ron Delelio said the charge was appropriate even though the essay was not published or posted for public viewing.

    Disorderly conduct, which carries a penalty of 30 days in jail and a $1,500 fine, is filed for pranks such as pulling a fire alarm or dialing 911. But it can also apply when someone's writings can disturb an individual, Delelio said.

    "The teacher was alarmed and disturbed by the content," he said.

    But a civil rights advocate said the teacher's reaction to an essay shouldn't make it a crime.

    "One of the elements is that some sort of disorder or disruption is created," said Ed Yohnka, a spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois. "When something is done in private—when a paper is handed in to a teacher—there isn't a disruption."

    The "key outcomes" this month for the Creative English class was for students to identify and utilize poetic conventions to communicate ideas and emotions. With that in mind, teachers reminded students that if they read something that posed a threat to self or others, the school could take action, said High School District 155 Supt. Jill Hawk.

    The English teacher read the essay and reported it to a supervisor and the principal. A round-table discussion with district officials conveyed, with lively debate, and they decided to report it to the police.

    "Our staff is very familiar with adolescent behavior. We're very well versed with types of creativity put into writing. We know the standards of adolescent behavior that are acceptable and that there is a range," Hawk said.

    "There can certainly be writing that conveys concern for us even though it does not name names location or date," he said.

    The charge against Lee comes as schools across the country wrestle with how to react in the wake of the shootings at the Virginia Tech campus at Blacksburg, Va.

    Bomb threats at high schools in Schaumburg and Country Club Hills have caused evacuations, and extra police were on duty at a Palos Hills high school this week because of a threatening note found in the bathroom of a McDonald's restaurant a half-mile away.

    Experts say the charge against Lee is troubling because it was over an essay that even police say contained no direct threats against anyone at the school. However, Virginia Tech's actions toward Cho came under heavy scrutiny after the killings because of the "disturbing" plays and essays teachers say he had written for classes.

    Simmie Baer, an attorney with the Children and Family Justice Center at Northwestern University, called the Cary incident an example of zero-tolerance policies gone awry. Children, she said, are not as sophisticated as adults and often show emotion through writing or pictures, which is what teachers should want because it is a safe outlet.
     
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    ^^^^

    I'm curious what is in that essay.
     

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