I don't think it was close. CP3 was older and didn't have a good season, a lot of people here were for trading him at the time and didn't believe he'd have a good twilight to his career No one was for trading Hopkins...and then we traded him for a guy that was about to be cut...Westbrook is a much better player in his sport than David Johnson...who really was a guy that had like 2 good seasons and was like 3rd on their depth chart...
In terms of rebuilding the CP3 trade is worse because our draft fortunes are still tied to OKC for a while. In terms of logical/smart decisions, the Hopkins trade takes the cake, no question.
CP3 is injury prone. They couldn't trust his health. God bless him. The real question maybe who is better, Paul or Harden
Really? We traded the #1 WR in the NFL for a guy that was going to be cut...and it's not even in the same universe?
I'm a Texan. Don't know who these other "Texans" are. As for CP3, doing that trade was a terrible mistake, in my humble opinion. I thought that when it occurred and still feel the same way.
DHop trade was worse because Texans drafted him. We didn't draft CP3, there was a lot of health questions with CP3 before he was traded. DHop was traded because King BOB didn't think he could pay him. What if OKC didn't trade CP3 to the Suns?!?!?!?
In terms of player-for-player, yes, the Hopkins trade was worse. In terms of franchise-altering-ramifications, the Paul/Westbrook trade was far worse. Not even debatable when looking at all that's taken place and the debt we now have with picks to OKC.
The Texans got far more for Hopkins than the Rockets did. They at least got a draft pick. If the Rockets traded CP3 for a bench warmer that we released and nothing else, this trade is magnitudes better. If the Texans had sent out Hopkins and some 1st round picks for a worse WR with an equally bad contract, then we can talk about it being in the same ballpark.
I'm not sure you can say that then Rockets rebuild is already miles ahead of the Texans... Texans sucked and didn't even have their pick, maybe if they had kept Hopkins they wouldn't have been given the Dolphins their top 5 pick...
That's splitting hairs, for a worse WR? NFL the contracts are not the same. We traded the best WR in the NFL for a guy that was going to get cut, teams in the NFL rarely make trades for the same position. The Hopkins trade was laughably bad and the only reason it's being brought up now is because CP3 made the finals and there's some amazing hindsight going on around these forums. The Hopkins trade is easily the worst trade in the organization history and had it not been for Watson's off the field issues could be prominently blamed for scaring away a franchise QB as well
Kind of irrelevant? Rebuilding in the NFL is far different from rebuilding in the NBA, and of course they're in different spots. The Rockets were forced into trading their best player in 20 years in the middle of his prime. The Rockets were one of the best teams in the entire league with two guys who are currently helping lead two of the best teams in the NBA. The Westbrook trade took them from Top 5 team to worst in the NBA in just 2 seasons. The Hopkins trade, in no way, was that damaging. It was just another sign of the overall incompetence of the organization. Sure, the Harden trade recouped some of that value, but if the Rockets just stood pat with Harden/Paul/Capela, they are competing for championships still. Even if the Texans kept Hopkins, he wasn't pushing them to contender status.
I would actually disagree with that, they both killed teams, it's just that the CP3 trade killed a championship caliber team. I might back off of that because we lost Ariza and Moute and turned them into Shumpert and Carter Williams and Ennis. So... we blew up a team with mega contender potential that would have required a few moves to correct.
Trading D-Hop for David Johnson and a 2nd round pick is like trading Kyrie Irving for Derek Rose and a 2nd round pick. No trade will ever be that bad. O'Brien traded arguably the best receiver in football for a guy who was an All-Star 4 years prior to the trade, and had since been injured and mediocre. It is clear that some of you do not watch football.