Does Palmer get fired over the bye week?

Speaking of these guys, does anyone know if they are starters yet?

IMO: -#1 ought to not only start but also be an impact player
-------#2 ought to start in his rookie (maybe not first game)
-------#3-5 ought ot start eventually (2 to 3 years)

This refers to the constant griping about our drafting. Travis Johnson may not live up to impact player, but Carr, AJohnson, and Drobinson certainly have.

 

Wow ! My cousin and I were just saying this the other day . Pardee and Capers are so much alike , no matter what happens they never seem to get hyped up . If I see Capers do the infamous Pardee wiping of the mouth , I'm gonna freak out man

 

Yeah, that plus the way he sounded on the radio yesterday. He sounded befuddled - he sounded just like Pardee. You want your head coach to be mad, apologetic or something, ANYTHING but confused and clueless. So far, from the top down, all I'm hearing is stale excuses and rationalizations like "16 teams in the NFL are 0-1" or my favorite: "Last year New England lost their first game but they ended up winning the Super Bowl" as if the Texans have a snowball's chance in hell of getting there without having to buy tickets like the rest of us.

 

Too early.

 

I sure hope so. The sooner, the better.

What is Capers writing down on paper between plays? I don't see any other head coach writing down stuff during games. Perhaps he's updating his resume.

 

What was that move they made? They fired Jimy and replaced him w/ Scrap Iron.

What moves did they make? They changed personnel (in this case the players, which the Texans have failed to do at the one glaring hole they have, the O line). Plus the firing JVG/CD rants were warranted because A)CD had made some definite questionable moves prior to last season and B)JVG stubbornly tried to mold the team to his style and it clearly wasn't working. So what happend, he started coaching around his players, using their skills. But in another aspect, the criticism wasn't necessarily warranted because he was in only his second year.

No need, Garner proved himself last season and the team has been overperforming this year. But can you imagine where we would be if we had made personnel moves (for another bat)? Plus, we did replace GMs.

I'm not calling for anybody's head just yet, because it is only the second week now. And I don't believe anybody's getting fired till, at the very least, the offseason. That said, Sunday's performance was pathetic and if its in any way indicative of the rest of the season, these coaches definitely need to go. My question is they replaced a number of veteran role players on this team with younger players...but have those moves made them better or have we regressed? And what about the O line? Right now it looks like we have regressed. The offense looks like it has taken a trip to year one. The O line hasn't been improved AT ALL. And the Defense looks about the same as last year. This team is in their 4th year...they've had plenty of time to improve and strengthen their weaknesses. And right now, I just don't see the improvement I was expecting this year.

 

You play how you practice. I been saying this all along. During the preseason, I felt like the Texans did not do enough to keep up with the other teams especially in our division. David Carr should have been playing full half's in the preseason to get timing right with the offense. Injury's are apart of the game. It is the last thing you should think about in football. These boys will be 6-10 this year lucky if we get to 8-8. The offense has some growing up to do, unfortunately since we jacked off in the pre-season, they are going to have to learn on the job. David Carr has got to show way more heart than what he did this past Sunday. He just gave up. Protection wasnt the best, but this line has never been considered even close to that. He is the highest paid player on the team, the media darling, the leader. I expect more from him. We will lose to Jax twice, Indy twice, buffalo is already in the books and Pittsburgh is just a better team than we are. Thats 6 loses right there. Some people are saying its just one game, to them I say the preseason showed the same thing. This is not Basketball where there is 40 plus games before you hit the midway point and make adjustments. Reality check dont get your blood pressure up cause I truly believe we are not prepared for this season.

 

For all you Casserly haters I have 3 words to prove you wrong:


Bennie F'ing JOPPRU

 

I'd have to say that was a move in itself, in hindsight though, of course.

What questionable moves did CD make other than acquiring Ward? The trade for TMac? Sure, Reece Gaines sucked, but he eventually netted Mike James. Besides, he wasn't even a minor part of the deal. He was just a throw in to make the salaries work. The signing of Bobby Sura? I was at the game he made his return. The crowd was so excited to see him get in there. It was wild. I was impressed everyone knew who he was. JVG was just trying to build the team around Yao, but when you have TMac it's become obvious that Yao should play 2nd fiddle and let TMac create, as you said.

Didn't JVG prove himself a year earlier with the Cat/Franchise/Yao trio by reaching the playoffs? Didn't the Texans improve (again) last year? I'm just calling out the impatience that is being exhibited by everyone here because it's so easy to hate on management, so easy to hate on the superstars. For once, I just want to see a team loved from start (expansion) to finish. I guess I'm just attemtpting to be an idealist, trying to live in utopia. I just want Houston to embrace a team from the onset rather than ride the wave on a new stadium or a winning team. I've had season tickets for every team we've had, including the Oilers. Man, I loved that team...I hated them when they lost to KC in the dome. I remember not even being able to breathe because the aisles were so jam-packed. I remember crying when the Rockets were swept against the freakin Sonics while trying to defend their title. Everyone expects a championship every year, regardless of the year prior. I'd love to see the Texans make the playoffs this year, but if it doesn't happen it wouldn't be a shocker. I guess only cities such as Green Bay can be expected to have that sort of fanaticism with their teams because it's all they've got.

I totally understand where you're coming from...the thing is, some of the youth we acquired is gonna suck and some of it is gonna allow us to make progress. Very similar to the Stros. Luke Scott has sucked it up, but without Willy T they'd be out of contention. The Bills are a great defensive team. Our turnovers provided their offense with unbelievable field position throughout the game, IIRC. I remember them beginning at least 2 drives within our 30. That is inexplicable. However, our defense played a gutsy game. Sure, there were definitely too many offsides penalties, but what do you expect when the opposition is hovering over the red zone the entire first half due to turnovers? I believe the defense was just overzealous (Buchanon did suck though). We were just being too aggressive. Trying to make something happen, I think, so we could stay in the game. Buffalo only had 1 TD, I believe. 5 FG's. bleh. Let's just get real rowdy this weekend and see if the Texans are a team that plays to the level of their opposition.

 

I don't see how firing Palmer at the beginning of the season would help anything - it would seem to be more likely to create turmoil through the rest of the year.

I stand by my earlier opinion that no changes will be made until it becomes mathematically impossible for the Texans to reach .500 for the season. And if the Texans do reach at least .500, but not the playoffs, expect Palmer to be canned in the off-season. If the Texans don't even reach .500, both Palmer and Capers will be gone.

 

Well JVG didn't necessarily prove himself the first year by reaching the playoffs because the Rockets were well on their way the previous season before Rudy got sidelined. He did prove himself, however, when he and CD overhauled the roster by trading away a franchise player and two other staples of the team, then overhauled the roster again, midseason, tweaked his coaching style to better fit his players attributes, then took them to the brink of the second round. And now the team looks to have improved even more. And I was seeing improvement in the Texans through the first 3 years as well...slow but gradual improvement. But this year, I'm just not so sure they've improved much, if at all. The coaching staff has failed to sell me on the notion that they've improved upon their lingering weaknesses.

And while I think it's a nice notion to want fans to embrace teams through the winning and the losing seasons, I think it conflicts with the very nature of a fan. We're too emotionally involved. So it's not suprising when a team underperforms, underachieves, fails to develop any kind of cohesiveness or chemistry, goes on an extended losing streak, etc the fans are gonna get a little restless. It's just the nature of sports. I applaud you if you can continually cheer on the Texans, Rockets or Astros even when the Texans pathetically and embarassingly lose their season opener, when the Rockets suffered through the iso days of Francis, Moochie and Mobley or failed to put up 80pts a game through the first 3rd of the season last year, or when the Astros forget how to get home....because I find it very hard to stay
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That sounds fair as long as they're 8-0 at home.

 

Doesn't matter if he gets fired or not, with the personell we have on this team, that would not be a job anybody would want. I feel bad for Palmer in a way.

 

LOL!

On his resume, he tracks # of offensive first downs earned during term as head coach.

If the Texans get one, he marks another "I" or a "\" in proper standard primitive count form.

If they don't he writes, "D@mn, D@mn, D@mn, D@mn..."

That's why he's always writing so much.

 

casserly and his staff have been in place since 2000. and there are exactly two - perhaps three - players on this roster that would start for more than a dozen other NFL teams. that's an awful track record.

and they were 7-9 because they beat equally mediocre teams. they were not in the class of good teams last year, and finished the season 3-6 with an absolutely awe-inspiring meltdown against the browns.

major nailed it - the team isn't progressing; it's just... languishing.

it's apparent. the continued string of penalities; the inability to make in-game adjustments; the lack of focus; the continued lack of across the board improvement; the stock, standard postgame answers... they're in over their heads. casserly, capers, et al, are driving this franchise into a ravine, imo.

 

Couldnt have said it better. If it walks like a duck....

 

I guess I was wrong.

Palmer was Capers scape goat. Capers is a loser. I hope he's next.

The Pendry replacement doesn't boost my confidence.