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Does Kevin Martin have that "killer instinct"?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Angkor Wat, Mar 8, 2010.

  1. H-TownBBall

    H-TownBBall Member

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    Was it amaru or towW that bet me they would leave the forum if Martin shot over 40% as a Rocket this season... not looking so good right now.
     
  2. nolimitnp

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    We'll see. It can't be said enough, Yao changes the complete dynamic of every single player on the floor. I would not at all be surprised to see Shane Battier lead the team in game winning field goals.

    We'll see.
     
  3. Tiger23

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    not necessarily but he can score critical FG's and FT's at the end of the games IF Brooks pass the dam ball..
    does Brooks have that killer instinct? hell no but he aint afraid to ruin our chances at winnin by heaving up ill advised 3pt shots

    PLEASE get healthy Lowry
     
  4. pac73186

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    he is shooting 41.6% right now and he the last 7 games or so he has only had one bad shooting game thats against the kings...i predict he will shoot at least 45% the only reason he only shot 42% last year is because he dealt with a sprained ankle the whole season that never healed and he was the number one option so he didnt get that many good looks..as far this year he started off rough because he missed so many games and was trying to fit in with the kings and just lost his confidence but i think martin is coming around
     
  5. Tiger23

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    he didnt look like he didnt want the shot, wtf are u talking about?
    Martin pump faked and tried to reposition himsrlf for the 3pt shot becuz we were down THREE POINTS fool.. what game were u watching? stacey mclazy doesnt score the rock in the final seconds in playoff games, thats for dam sure.. remember game 7 against Utah on OUR homecourt? the final 4 minutes he disappeared like houdini she-back has no heart
     
  6. towW

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    Not I. I have his Kings rookie jersey.
     
  7. Seth

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    No, that's why in my perfect world, we trade him and get Ginobili off a sign n trade deal with a lesser team with cap space that won't get any good FA by signing them.

    A small team that the only way to get a star would be a sign n trade.
     
  8. iconoclastic

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    OR we can sign/trade for a star PF, sign Ginobili for the MLE, AND keep Martin
     
  9. pac73186

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    y would u want ginobli he is more injury prone than martin and is a lot older
     
  10. RV6

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    the rockets are going to need that player anyway if they want to win a ring. Martin isn't it. Brooks could have it, but it's a two part thing. You need to want to do it and then be able to do it. Brooks only has the first part down and i'm not sure he'll get the second one down because of his size and inability to draw contact...but he seems to be working on that last part with some help from Martin, so we'll see.

    If brooks can't do it or if he's not part of the long terms plan here, then we'll need someone who can. The only other option is yao being good AND aggressive next year, so that in end of game situations he either scores or draws defenders to pass to open shooters. However, I don't believe Yao can excel like that if there's only a handful of seconds left.
     
  11. ryano2009

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    What ??
     
  12. pac73186

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    if yao even stays healthy...bosh would be the best to get
     
  13. ryano2009

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    I agree, Martin isn't closer, we don't need big time scorer or closer to win a championship, look at the spurs they never had big time scorer or a closer, even though they had two primary superstars (Duncan, Parker) and none of them were a closer, but they were one of the best NBA teams for the last decade, bcuz they weren't selfish and they had the complementary pieces on their teams.

    But I agree I think Martin isn't closer but he is big time scorer and he can light up the scoreboard, still in my opinion he need to step up and show his new team what he is capable of..
     
  14. Seth

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    He will get MLE offers from better teams than ours. You have to sweeten him up. Plus, i don't think any team with a Martin - Brooks backcourt is championship ready.
    And injury prone my ass, Ginobili has played in the past 8 years as of today more games than Kobe. Combining International and NBA games.
    He had two major injuries in 14 years of proffesional basketball, and none of them took him out of the game for more than 4 month.
    Ginobili being injury prone is just a thing that has been said lately because both injuries came in consecutive years. But the guy has been durable throut all years within his career in europe, argentina NT and the NBA.

    He has played on average, 80 games per season in the NBA only since he got here, plus, 5 international tournaments where he got to the last game (final or 3rd place) on all of them, that's 65 more games that make the average go to 88.1 games per year.

    LeBron, who is one of the most durable players has played an average of 91 games over the last 7 years. Kobe on his 13 years as a pro has played an average of 85 games...
     
  15. towW

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    wait how does that bet make sense? what would be in it for the other guy? he was shooting near 40% when he was with tyreke evans.
     
  16. pac73186

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    he played 44 games last year and hes been injured this year so it could start a trend he is 32 and will be 33 in july
     
  17. t_mac1

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    you have to have the ability to get a shot over anybody to have a chance to do so. martin does not have that ability (he can create his own shot, but not against anybody at anytime).

    AB is our guy this year. it would be yao next year if he is fully healthy. but nobody in our organization is expecting martin to carry the team.
     
  18. Seth

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    For you to take whatever conclusion you want, T-Mac averages 69 games per years in his career, and Yao, who played a lot internationally, averages 70.

    That is injury prone, 88 games is above average.
     
  19. T-Slack

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    There was the last game and another game, can't remember were Martin either stepped out of bounds or loss the ball over a unforced turnover in the crucial parts of the game. I'm sorry, like I said in the other thread. Morey F'ed up big time in this trade. Like the King fan said, Martin is not a game changer. And as long as we have him on our team, we'll never win a championship.
     
  20. pac73186

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    yeah i understand im not talking about the 5 years ago im talkin about the recently and last year he did not play very much and this year he is nagged by injuries but playing better of recent..if they could have both guys then no doubt that be a great pick up
     

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