Did Tmac, SF3 and Starbury deserve them? Contracts pay you for the work you've already done, not the work you're about to do. Think about it, most players that are in their prime are payed low salaries. They make noise, sign a max contract then decline greatly.
The Hawks owners are a joke man. I just read from that guy from Yahoo, that the Hawks owners are thinking about giving Johnson the max cause they figure they won't own the team towards the end of the contract.
They might be the only ones who would. To everyone else, he's a very good but 2nd tier player. In Atlanta, he's a superstar.
If their max guy is underpaid and your max guy is just right for his salary, who has the advantage? Them or you? One way of countering that is by paying your max guy a salary less than the max. Its the same thing as saying Amare/JJ/Bosh don't deserve the max. At any rate I don't see how you can put a metric on what a "max" player is supposed to make. What criteria do you use to determine whether a player deserves the max or not? The only reliable way I know is to grade on a curve, and based on a curve DH, CP3, LBJ, Kobe and Wade deserve the max, while JJ, Bosh and most Amare don't.
I can be a leader to. Do you think I deserve the max? As a leader I'll probably lead the Hawks nowhere in the playoffs, and guess what, that's exactly what JJ did. Overpaid and overrated.
That's like the most absurd business logic I've ever heard. Thank goodness we have a GM who don't use so weird logic. Or he'd probably tell Boston during his stay there that having PP/Allen/KG is no good, because they aren't as good as Wade/Lebron/DHoward. You obviously had not been a fan of the NBA before 2000(or whenever the current CBA was put in place). So I suggest you read into NBA history.
i don't think you deserve the max because you cannot get the hawks to earn the 3rd seed in the east while carrying an isolation offense on your shoulders.
tmac deserved his max contract when he signed it. he was a top 5 player for a 5 year period. sf3 and starbury were never superstars. joe johnson is a tier above them, but his disappearances (did he even play?) in the playoffs is highly disturbing.
LMAO well sorry for trying to maximize the value of the LIMITED capspace we have. I guess you support Joe Dumars all the way for wasting his capspace on Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Why should he let his money sit there and rot, or that Gordon and Villanueva were no where near worth their contracts? They're there for the taking, SIGN SIGN SIGN The PP/Allen/KG combo had a net of 1 championship and 2 finals appearances for the last 3 years. For that accomplishment they're paying through the roof with 3 max contracts on top of their other players, and they needed to depend heavily on Rondo, whose ascension as one of the top pgs in the league was totally out of the blue. Had they not traded for KG and Allen, they could have trotted out a lineup of: Rondo Al Jefferson Kendrick Perkins OJ Mayo Jeff Green ^That's not counting whatever it is they could have gotten for Pierce, or the FAs they could have signed with the capspace they had. That doesn't guarantee the single championship that the Celtics had, however the window for success is far, far longer, unlike now when the Celt's window has closed already and they're paying luxury tax for the max contracts of Pierce and Allen, both of which don't deserve it. What does history have to do with it? Are you saying you look at guys like Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Hakeem, MJ and Magic and say that based on guys like those, JJ, Bosh and Amare deserve the max? If anything those guys prove that the standards for "max" players have dropped as the years went by, and just because the market is willing to pay them the max doesn't mean you should do the same.
IMHO that's not reason enough to pay someone the max either. And let's be honest here, JJ's playoff stats this year: 17.9 pts, 0.387 FG%, 0.220 3P%, 14.5 PER, 0.1 Win Share Anybody who thinks that deserves a max contract is drinking the JJ kool-aid. Its not like he only performed bad this year, his career playoff FG is 0.412% and his career playoff 3P is 0.366%.
I've said this before, look at how much revenue NBA is generating as a whole (the TV deals, endorsement from Spalding, etc. ). Players performance + league marketing generate that revenue. Therefore they get paid.
I think most tier 2 players deserve the max while most tier 1 players deserved more but are capped. Why do I say this, because the league have to institute a max limit. Logic shows, if you remove the max and let contracts fall where they may (w/ bidding war) you can bet JJ get's around max money and Lebron gets 30 mil (Shaq money).
How would they have gotten OJ Mayo? and to put it bluntly that lineup sucks. Al Jefferson has never led his team to a winning season and without the Big 3 Rondo and Perkins would have never developed into the players they have become.
He'll get max or very near max. It's just supply and demand. Even if he's 2nd tier talent when compared to kobe/james/durant etc.
They got OJ Mayo because the 3rd pick in the draft belonged to the Celts due to Mchale, and the Celts returned it to Minny as part of the KG package. What does the big 3 have to do with Rondo and Perkins? Did Allen and PP pull Rondo aside and taught him to shoot? Rondo and Perkins' improvement can be credited to themselves and the staff at the celtics. Maybe the big 3 had a hand in their development but its probably very minimal. And again that's disregarding the package they could have gotten for Paul Pierce, who definitely would have been shipped away if the Celts were rebuilding. Finally the capspace would have been huge. If the Celts had capspace now they have just a big a chance of attracting LBJ/Wade/Bosh as anyone.
JJ deserves to apologize to the fans of ATL for being such a douche. than he deserves the MLE, nothing more. I say good day to you sir!! *Fez accent*
He doesn't deserve the max. He deserves about what Martin earns, maybe slightly higher at best. The players that deserve the max are probably just these: CP, Wade, Lebron, Kobe, Howard, Durant, Melo, Roy
Are any of these guys REALLY worth even millions of dollars? to play a game? take half of there earnings from all of these stars and you could build a small country! But hey, if you put millions in my face, the next thing you will hear is the Ted Debiase song "money money money money"!! and ill be tossing it around like a salad.
