Does Harden have the potential to be better than T-Mac in his prime?

daywalker02 · May 11, 2017

tinman said: ↑
No you must really hate that Harden is significantly better than him as a Rocket and as an NBA player.

STOP LYING. He didn't play in all 22 games.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801290HOU.html
Code:
                                                                                              
                                                                                             Basi
Starters           MP FG FGA  FG% 3P 3PA  3P% FT FTA   FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS +/-
Rafer Alston    42:55  7  19 .368  2   8 .250  1   2  .500   2   6   8  12   2   0   2  3  17  +5
Luther Head     42:34  7  16 .438  1   5 .200  5   5 1.000   0   2   2   6   1   0   1  3  20  +6
Yao Ming        40:08 11  19 .579  0        0 14  15  .933   5  14  19   1   0   1   7  2  36  -2
Shane Battier   35:58  3   5 .600  2   4 .500  0         0   0   6   6   4   1   2   1  4   8 +14
Luis Scola      25:02  4   7 .571  0        0  2   2 1.000   1   1   2   1   1   1   2  3  10 +14
Bonzi Wells     17:10  0   1 .000  0        0  3   4  .750   0   7   7   1   1   0   0  1   3  -8
Steve Novak     12:15  3   5 .600  2   3 .667  0         0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0  1   8  -3
Aaron Brooks    10:52  0   5 .000  0   1 .000  0   2  .000   1   2   3   1   0   0   0  3   0  -6
Carl Landry      9:27  3   6 .500  0        0  1   2  .500   1   2   3   1   0   0   0  2   7  +3
Mike James       3:39  1   2 .500  0        0  0         0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0  1   2  -3
Team Totals       240 39  85 .459  7  21 .333 26  32  .813  10  40  50  28   6   5  13 23     111
Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/11/2017.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2008_games.html

45 Tue, Jan 29, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Golden State Warriors W 111 107 25 20 W 1
46 Fri, Feb 1, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Indiana Pacers W 106 103 26 20 W 2
47 Sat, Feb 2, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score @ Milwaukee Bucks W 91 83 27 20 W 3
48 Mon, Feb 4, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Minnesota Timberwolves W 92 86 28 20 W 4
49 Thu, Feb 7, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Cleveland Cavaliers W 92 77 29 20 W 5
50 Sat, Feb 9, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Atlanta Hawks W 108 89 30 20 W 6
51 Mon, Feb 11, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Portland Trail Blazers W 95 83 31 20 W 7
52 Wed, Feb 13, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Sacramento Kings W 89 87 32 20 W 8
53 Tue, Feb 19, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Cleveland Cavaliers W 93 85 33 20 W 9
54 Thu, Feb 21, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Miami Heat W 112 100 34 20 W 10
55 Fri, Feb 22, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ New Orleans Hornets W 100 80 35 20 W 11
56 Sun, Feb 24, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Chicago Bulls W 110 97 36 20 W 12
57 Tue, Feb 26, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Washington Wizards W 94 69 37 20 W 13
58 Fri, Feb 29, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Memphis Grizzlies W 116 95 38 20 W 14
59 Sun, Mar 2, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Denver Nuggets W 103 89 39 20 W 15
60 Wed, Mar 5, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Indiana Pacers W 117 99 40 20 W 16
G Date Opponent Tm Opp W L Streak Notes
61 Thu, Mar 6, 2008 8:30p ET Box Score @ Dallas Mavericks W 113 98 41 20 W 17
62 Sat, Mar 8, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score New Orleans Hornets W 106 96 42 20 W 18
63 Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score New Jersey Nets W 91 73 43 20 W 19
64 Wed, Mar 12, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Atlanta Hawks W 83 75 44 20 W 20
65 Fri, Mar 14, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Charlotte Bobcats W 89 80 45 20 W 21
66 Sun, Mar 16, 2008 2:30p ET Box Score Los Angeles Lakers W 104 92 46 20 W 22
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Chill, man!

jcmoon · May 11, 2017

how many games did he play? did you watch?
tinman said: ↑
No you must really hate that Harden is significantly better than him as a Rocket and as an NBA player.

STOP LYING. He didn't play in all 22 games.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801290HOU.html
Code:
                                                                                             
                                                                                             Basi
Starters           MP FG FGA  FG% 3P 3PA  3P% FT FTA   FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS +/-
Rafer Alston    42:55  7  19 .368  2   8 .250  1   2  .500   2   6   8  12   2   0   2  3  17  +5
Luther Head     42:34  7  16 .438  1   5 .200  5   5 1.000   0   2   2   6   1   0   1  3  20  +6
Yao Ming        40:08 11  19 .579  0        0 14  15  .933   5  14  19   1   0   1   7  2  36  -2
Shane Battier   35:58  3   5 .600  2   4 .500  0         0   0   6   6   4   1   2   1  4   8 +14
Luis Scola      25:02  4   7 .571  0        0  2   2 1.000   1   1   2   1   1   1   2  3  10 +14
Bonzi Wells     17:10  0   1 .000  0        0  3   4  .750   0   7   7   1   1   0   0  1   3  -8
Steve Novak     12:15  3   5 .600  2   3 .667  0         0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0  1   8  -3
Aaron Brooks    10:52  0   5 .000  0   1 .000  0   2  .000   1   2   3   1   0   0   0  3   0  -6
Carl Landry      9:27  3   6 .500  0        0  1   2  .500   1   2   3   1   0   0   0  2   7  +3
Mike James       3:39  1   2 .500  0        0  0         0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0  1   2  -3
Team Totals       240 39  85 .459  7  21 .333 26  32  .813  10  40  50  28   6   5  13 23     111
Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/11/2017.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2008_games.html

45 Tue, Jan 29, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Golden State Warriors W 111 107 25 20 W 1
46 Fri, Feb 1, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Indiana Pacers W 106 103 26 20 W 2
47 Sat, Feb 2, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score @ Milwaukee Bucks W 91 83 27 20 W 3
48 Mon, Feb 4, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Minnesota Timberwolves W 92 86 28 20 W 4
49 Thu, Feb 7, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Cleveland Cavaliers W 92 77 29 20 W 5
50 Sat, Feb 9, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Atlanta Hawks W 108 89 30 20 W 6
51 Mon, Feb 11, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Portland Trail Blazers W 95 83 31 20 W 7
52 Wed, Feb 13, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Sacramento Kings W 89 87 32 20 W 8
53 Tue, Feb 19, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Cleveland Cavaliers W 93 85 33 20 W 9
54 Thu, Feb 21, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Miami Heat W 112 100 34 20 W 10
55 Fri, Feb 22, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ New Orleans Hornets W 100 80 35 20 W 11
56 Sun, Feb 24, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Chicago Bulls W 110 97 36 20 W 12
57 Tue, Feb 26, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Washington Wizards W 94 69 37 20 W 13
58 Fri, Feb 29, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Memphis Grizzlies W 116 95 38 20 W 14
59 Sun, Mar 2, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Denver Nuggets W 103 89 39 20 W 15
60 Wed, Mar 5, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Indiana Pacers W 117 99 40 20 W 16
G Date Opponent Tm Opp W L Streak Notes
61 Thu, Mar 6, 2008 8:30p ET Box Score @ Dallas Mavericks W 113 98 41 20 W 17
62 Sat, Mar 8, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score New Orleans Hornets W 106 96 42 20 W 18
63 Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score New Jersey Nets W 91 73 43 20 W 19
64 Wed, Mar 12, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Atlanta Hawks W 83 75 44 20 W 20
65 Fri, Mar 14, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Charlotte Bobcats W 89 80 45 20 W 21
66 Sun, Mar 16, 2008 2:30p ET Box Score Los Angeles Lakers W 104 92 46 20 W 22
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Rox11 · May 11, 2017

tinman said: ↑

I truly question someone's Rocket fandom when they try to associate playoff success to McGrady
It's like the people who got 3 numbers right in The lottery and insist they should have got the other 3 and won
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My comments weren't about Harden vs Tmac, I'm talking about straight up the way Harden loses games with his antics. Like 3 straight possessions just ran the clock and bricked 3's. Have you noticed every time he attacks the rim and actually runs the ball we are leading?

swyyyguy · May 11, 2017

Harden better play like T-Mac tonight if we want to come back and win this series.

swyyyguy · May 11, 2017

tinman said: ↑

We faced the Jazz twice, they were suppose to be a worse team than us.

They had a worse record.

You can't give Tmac credit for a streak where he didn't even play 22 games.

If Tmac was not in his prime, why did we trade for him?

I'm not talking about the second loss to the Jazz, we lost twice to them.

Actually Tmac only appeared in 3 playoff series. Dallas, Utah, and Utah.

The Rockets team play with a different hero every game was the reason for the 22 game winning streak. Rick Adelman was the reason with his motion offense.
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So our success this year is due to Mike D'Antoni, NOT James Harden, right? Or do you switch up your logic whenever you want?

Tinmac getting exposed again. You wouldn't make a very good lawyer!

swyyyguy · May 11, 2017

Reminder: T-Mac is #12 ALL-TIME in NBA playoff PER.

Please channel your inner T-Mac tonight, James.

threepointshot3 · May 11, 2017

swyyyguy said: ↑

Reminder: T-Mac is #12 ALL-TIME in NBA playoff PER.

Please channel your inner T-Mac tonight, James.
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To bad he was doing in the 1st round.

jcmoon · May 11, 2017

tinman said: ↑
No you must really hate that Harden is significantly better than him as a Rocket and as an NBA player.

STOP LYING. He didn't play in all 22 games.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801290HOU.html
Code:
                                                                                              
                                                                                             Basi
Starters           MP FG FGA  FG% 3P 3PA  3P% FT FTA   FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS +/-
Rafer Alston    42:55  7  19 .368  2   8 .250  1   2  .500   2   6   8  12   2   0   2  3  17  +5
Luther Head     42:34  7  16 .438  1   5 .200  5   5 1.000   0   2   2   6   1   0   1  3  20  +6
Yao Ming        40:08 11  19 .579  0        0 14  15  .933   5  14  19   1   0   1   7  2  36  -2
Shane Battier   35:58  3   5 .600  2   4 .500  0         0   0   6   6   4   1   2   1  4   8 +14
Luis Scola      25:02  4   7 .571  0        0  2   2 1.000   1   1   2   1   1   1   2  3  10 +14
Bonzi Wells     17:10  0   1 .000  0        0  3   4  .750   0   7   7   1   1   0   0  1   3  -8
Steve Novak     12:15  3   5 .600  2   3 .667  0         0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0  1   8  -3
Aaron Brooks    10:52  0   5 .000  0   1 .000  0   2  .000   1   2   3   1   0   0   0  3   0  -6
Carl Landry      9:27  3   6 .500  0        0  1   2  .500   1   2   3   1   0   0   0  2   7  +3
Mike James       3:39  1   2 .500  0        0  0         0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0  1   2  -3
Team Totals       240 39  85 .459  7  21 .333 26  32  .813  10  40  50  28   6   5  13 23     111
Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/11/2017.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2008_games.html

45 Tue, Jan 29, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Golden State Warriors W 111 107 25 20 W 1
46 Fri, Feb 1, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Indiana Pacers W 106 103 26 20 W 2
47 Sat, Feb 2, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score @ Milwaukee Bucks W 91 83 27 20 W 3
48 Mon, Feb 4, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Minnesota Timberwolves W 92 86 28 20 W 4
49 Thu, Feb 7, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Cleveland Cavaliers W 92 77 29 20 W 5
50 Sat, Feb 9, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Atlanta Hawks W 108 89 30 20 W 6
51 Mon, Feb 11, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Portland Trail Blazers W 95 83 31 20 W 7
52 Wed, Feb 13, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Sacramento Kings W 89 87 32 20 W 8
53 Tue, Feb 19, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Cleveland Cavaliers W 93 85 33 20 W 9
54 Thu, Feb 21, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Miami Heat W 112 100 34 20 W 10
55 Fri, Feb 22, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ New Orleans Hornets W 100 80 35 20 W 11
56 Sun, Feb 24, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Chicago Bulls W 110 97 36 20 W 12
57 Tue, Feb 26, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Washington Wizards W 94 69 37 20 W 13
58 Fri, Feb 29, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Memphis Grizzlies W 116 95 38 20 W 14
59 Sun, Mar 2, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score Denver Nuggets W 103 89 39 20 W 15
60 Wed, Mar 5, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Indiana Pacers W 117 99 40 20 W 16
G Date Opponent Tm Opp W L Streak Notes
61 Thu, Mar 6, 2008 8:30p ET Box Score @ Dallas Mavericks W 113 98 41 20 W 17
62 Sat, Mar 8, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score New Orleans Hornets W 106 96 42 20 W 18
63 Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score New Jersey Nets W 91 73 43 20 W 19
64 Wed, Mar 12, 2008 7:00p ET Box Score @ Atlanta Hawks W 83 75 44 20 W 20
65 Fri, Mar 14, 2008 7:30p ET Box Score Charlotte Bobcats W 89 80 45 20 W 21
66 Sun, Mar 16, 2008 2:30p ET Box Score Los Angeles Lakers W 104 92 46 20 W 22
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so i guess you're saying, only 21? LOL, he's a great lawyer!!!

ricardo1979 · May 11, 2017

This guy was a loser in Orlando, Houston, New York and Detroit. Pop didn't even bother playing him in San Antonio.

jcmoon · May 11, 2017

ricardo1979 said: ↑

This guy was a loser in Orlando, Houston, New York and Detroit. Pop didn't even bother playing him in San Antonio.
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lets ask what kobe thinks:

ricardo1979 · May 11, 2017

jcmoon said: ↑

lets ask what kobe thinks:

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Great individual player but a loser.

Easy · May 11, 2017

Did McGrady has as many triple doubles as Westbrook? No? Not good enough.

riko · May 11, 2017

Knee mac.....this scumbag went and had the microfracture surgery as soon as he got wind of us trading him to the nets was on the cards.Lets not forget about him picking the Lakers over his own team.

daywalker02 · May 11, 2017

Easy said: ↑

Did McGrady has as many triple doubles as Westbrook? No? Not good enough.
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Good point. Westbrick is more versatile.

tinman · May 11, 2017

jcmoon said: ↑

how many games did he play? did you watch?

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The box score pal. He didn't play in 22 games.
Learn how to count.

Every Tmac fan apparently doesn't know how to count. especially to 2.

Zboy · May 11, 2017

swyyyguy said: ↑

Harden better play like T-Mac tonight if we want to come back and win this series.
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What do you mean like Tmac?

He never played in the second round.

jcmoon · May 11, 2017

tinman said: ↑

The box score pal. He didn't play in 22 games.
Learn how to count.

Every Tmac fan apparently doesn't know how to count. especially to 2.
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so you're admitting you never watched the games, and only look at box scores, lol?

jcmoon · May 11, 2017

Zboy said: ↑

What do you mean like Tmac?

He never played in the second round.
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by this logic, michael jordan was a loser before he got scottie pippen...basketball is a team game, its five on five.

Rox11 · May 11, 2017

tinman can say that many guys stepped up to get the winstreak, but it wouldn't have been possible with out Tracy just how it wouldn't have been possible without Novak and others...

tinman · May 11, 2017

jcmoon said: ↑

so you're admitting you never watched the games, and only look at box scores, lol?
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I watched the games
Apparently you didn't

The 22 game win streak was a team effort where lots of players showcased their skills . Yao and Tmac didn't play all 22 games.

But you want to give him all the credit for it.

Besides that was a regular season accomplishment.
What does that have to do with the second round of the playoffs ?
Nothing

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