there's a reason the 04-07 era phoenix suns didn't go anywhere, I mean they made it deep by we're talking title-wise and they were consistently beat out by one of the most disciplined and defensive teams in the league at the time, the spurs. That's the best example I got.
I personally thinks having the best player is half the battle won. Defense kept you from losing games, but offense is the only way you can win matches.
can someone tell me what is the offense efficiency? do you have any data on how many points are created by defense. you don't. what you do just merely count all those easy baskets to increase the offense efficiency. your shooting % is skewed by those easy baskets. you did nothing but ignore the logic that defense takes away the opponent offense possessions. it means the opponent has less opportunities to score. it's the reason you score more than the opponent. anytime when the high efficient offense was mentioned, no one talk about the opponent offense. why the opponent offense can't be as good as you team? bcoz your team defense. if you don't play defense at all, would anyone agree with me that the opponent will score every possession? they would have the best offense efficiency.
Well that and the league suspending half the Suns team for stepping 1 foot on the court after Horry cross checked Nash into the boards. DD
What you and the others are arguing poorly are the extreme examples. The rockets have been top 5 every year since yao and tracy were together defensivly and bottom 15 offensively. Now by using your logic, the rockets should've been making trips to the finals and hanging banners, but they didn't. Know why? Alston,head,howard,battier and the rest of the crew couldn't knock down shots nor create them. Use the tools of the web if you don't remember and scan the last 20 yrs and count how many top 10 offense won the title vs the top 10 defenses. I/m almost certain you will find all or most of the champs were top 10 in both. When DD talked about balance, thats what you need. Even this year with the faster pace the rockets are 13 in ppg and 15 in offensive eff. They haven't been ranked that high in ppg since 2001 and in terms of eff, they haven't even been higher. So what does that tell you? Balance is the key to winning games, not being tilted one way or the other.
I just want to point out that when the Rockets shoot better than 50% from the field this year they are 12-0. Conversely they have lost games when holding opponents under 40%.....Sacremento comes to mind. It is pretty clear that being able to score the ball is very important...and arguably the most important skill in the entire game. Balance wins for sure, defense does not win by itself. You have to SCORE the ball to win. DD
Yes,Me and others think that Defense ONLY! wins Championships.We also think that if you hold the other team scoreless, there's no need for you play your best players,just Defensive ONLY! guys like Battier,Hayes,Jeffres to win.
The problem with the JVG Rockets was that they were one dimensional offensively. It doesn't take a genius intellect to know contain McGrady and Yao, and the JVG Rockets' offense is cut by up to 70%. Meanwhile, look at the Celtics when they won, it was primarily their defense that made them successful that year. The Magic's run through the playoffs last year was mainly on the back of their defense being able to stop Lebron and the Celtics at critical moments, they failed when they went away from it and tried to reintegrate an obviously injured player into the rotation. Let's go back and look at the Championship winning Pistons' team of the last decade. The saying "the best offense is a great defense," is practically a proven fact in all sports and most situations. You can't beat any team in the Western conference with no defense, that is why teams like Golden State and Sac get good offensive players and still can't advance into the playoffs, while the Spurs, Mavs, Rockets, Jazz and etc who have had good defenses have been playoff constants for years.
whoever voted the best players win championships need to slap themselves twice ask the detroit pistons if thats true, when they beat the dream team of Shaq, Kobe, Karl Malone and Gary Payton.. or the Spurs who won 4 championships and swept queen james
because manu ginobili, tony parker, and tim duncan are totally worthless offensive players. and the 04 detroit pistons did NOT have rasheed wallace, billups, or rip hamilton..
lol wat? thats the most vague idiotic comment ive ever heard.. great D wins championships and a great team that plays good D can win it too but not just a 'great team' gtfo here
yea they had good individual players but it meant nothing cuz the style they played.. larry brown isnt an offensive coach, its ragged, same with the boooring spurs.. look the point per game for the spurs and pistons, they scored in the 80's and held their opponents below that wtf are u talking about?
When a team that has been as bad offensively like the rockets win a title, wake me up. If you just look through the last 20 yrs, it has happened only a couple of times which means your chances aren't good.
