Does Defense win Championships or not?

They got some reinforcement midseason (you know, that funny founding guy who does home games with Bill Worrell) so the season stats (and the fact they were only the 6th seed) don't really reflect team strength heading into playoffs.

And their season number dont' look that bad, either... 7th offensive efficiency, 12th defensive efficiency. I think Morey talked a couple times about needing to be top 10 in both offense and defense to be a real contender. That team came pretty close.

 

you can come up all examples but as i said. offense oppotunities are equal for both teams. defense is one to take away other team offense opportunities. that's a reason you score more than other teams. w/o taking away, your score will be same as the other team.

 

The Rockets defense went downhill, when they got Drexler. Our defense went from 2nd to 12th. That's average to mediocre defense in a 27 team league(Raptors, Bobcats and Grizzlies didn't exist back then).

Some people say mediocre defense can't win, but Drexler and the Rockets won. It was their offense that carried them.

 

I'm simply stating the ravens are a bad example when comparing to basketball. I know it sounds easy to use, but its wrong. Why? Like I've said before, 1 impactful basketball player can turn a lotto team into a contender, but it doesn't work like that. You can take the best running back or qb and put him on a dreadful team and it won't change much because you need alot of other variable to go right. I do believe a team has to be good defensively, but if they're avg, they can't win and thats been the rockets problem. They have been top 5 defensively since yao has been here and no higher than averaged 18th offensively. If you run down the past champs, they're top 10 in both. Most cases the team who wins the title is a top 5 offense wiht the exception of the pistons a few year back. Franchise player can carry a team offensively for stretches during playoff games no matter who they're playing against.

 

In a 27 team league, 13.5 would be right in the middle. They were 1.5 places higher than average. That's not great. Their offense was much better with Drexler coming in. Defensively, they were better in 1993-94.

 

Thats what I'm saying, most of champs are top 10 in both, but you very rarely see tops ten in defense and 15th in offense which has been the case in the yao-mcgrady era. Even the great offensive genius of adelman can't make this team top 10 offensively.

 

What about the Rockets? They went from the 2nd best defense to 12th and won, even though their defense was worse than their offense. What you are saying is that the Rockets should have never won a 2nd ring, because they only had elite offense while their defense was average.

 

If malone doesn't get hurt the series before, they would've beat the brakes off detroit. Once he started playing on 1 leg, its was over for them because he was a really good post defender. They didn't have to double the post at all. Once he went down, horry nor walton could check wallace and billups was killing payton. Post all the videos you want, but if you can't score, you can't win.

 

True. But like I said, it's hard to say much about that team's season stats. The team was only playing .500 ball in March and April. Most teams are in the playoffs what they are during the season, a team with major personnel change or injury issues during a part of the season, on the other hand, can outpeform their regular season numbers.

But to the larger point.... I agree it's not always defense that wins championships. There are more than one way to skin a cat (not sure why we'd want to skin a cat, but whatever).

 

The best defensive team that year were the Spurs and they were eliminated by the Lakers.

 

Does offense win championships?

I say it does. The Lakers and the Spurs have 8 championships between them to prove it.

Lakers average offensive efficiency in those 4 title runs: #3
Spurs average offensive efficiency in those 4 title runs: #7

The Rockets defensive ability during this stretch? Pretty on par with the best.
The Rockets offensive ability during this stretch? NOT EVEN F**KING CLOSE

Hence, I conclude that offense wins championships.

 

Oh man, here we go again. What was the defensive efficiency during those runs? You need both good offense and good defense to win titles.

 

Offense doesn't win championships, and neither does defense.

Great teams win championships.





Wait, is there an echo in here?

 

If defense was the main factor, then Ben Wallace, Ariza, Camby, and Battier would be worth more than Kobe, Gasol, LeBron, Chris Paul.

Since the defensive players are so cheap compared to superstars, Morey could build a all-intangibles team to win a ring.

 

You need both offense and defense to win a Championship.

But defense usually plays a bigger role in playoffs, when more contact is allowed.

 

this is gonna be exactly like the other thread. lol just alternating views of the same bullshyte

 

You are comparing one way players to tow way players here. Of course you take two way players.

For a team it's the same, two-way usually beats one-way. But between those two ways, defense plays a bigger role in playoffs than regular season, offense goes the other way.

More contact is allowed in playoffs and all the players offensive strength is explored by opponents. Those are all factoers in favor of defense.