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  1. OddsOn

    OddsOn Contributing Member

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    Anyone? Probably not as it was barely reported if touched at all by some news outlets.

    So I ask the question, why is it that some news stories, like the idiot burning the Koran, get over hyuped by the dive by media and other news stories like this one get seemingly ignored?

    Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses

    After defeating their rivals in Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement, Muslim extremists are focusing their attacks on Christians in Gaza City. Christians in Gaza City have issued an appeal to the international community and a plea for protection against the increased attacks by Muslim extremists.

    Father Manuel Musallem, head of Gaza's Latin church, told the AP that Muslims have ransacked, burned and looted a school and convent that are part of the Gaza Strip's small Romany Catholic community. He told the AP that crosses were broken, damage was done to a statue of Jesus, and at the Rosary Sister School and nearby convent, prayer books were burned.

    Gunmen used the roof of the school during the fighting, and the convent was "desecrated," Mussalem told the AP.

    "Nothing happens by mistake these days," he said.

    Father Musalam additionally told The Jerusalem Post that the Muslim gunmen used rocket-propeled grenades (RPGs) to blow through the doors of the church and school, before burning Bibles and destroying every cross they could get their hands on.

    Catholic Online reports that the heads of Christian churches in the Holy Land have urged both sides to put aside their weapons, noting that the infighting diverted international attention from the national goal of Palestinian independence.

    "This domestic fighting where brother draws his weapon against brother is detrimental to all the aspirations of achieving security and stability for the Palestinian people," they said. "In the name of the one and only God as well as in the name of each devastated Palestinian, many of whom are still dying, we urge our brothers in the Fatah and Hamas movements to listen to the voice of reason, truth and wisdom."

    One young woman told the Catholic News Service that she was concerned the Islamic extremists would "enforce a strict dress code, forcing women to wear veils and robes." One Christian teenager spoke to the Catholic News Service on the condition that her name not be used. She said the days of fighting had been "very difficult" but they were "OK now."

    Leaders of the Christian community in the Strip expressed deep concern over the fate of the Christians living under Hamas. They said most of them wanted to leave Gaza out of fear for their lives.

    [Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud] Abbas condemned the attack as barbaric and despicable and blamed Hamas militiamen.

    'The torching of the church is one of the fruits of the bloody coup that Hamas staged in the Gaza Strip,' he said.

    Several Christian institutions in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank have been targeted by masked gunmen over the past few months.
     
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  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    so, you want america to be more like gaza. gotcha.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Oh goodie an OddsOn thread!

    It must be Friday!

    dive by media?
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Wack jobs, wack jobs, rolly polly wack jobs.....

    Got to love the "My god is more right than your god brigade"

    DD
     
  5. MadMax

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    yes...the church has been persecuted. should it aspire to be the persecuters, now? maybe we should start crucifying folks more often since that happened to our Lord. that sounds exactly like what Jesus would want. that whole Crusades thing worked out so well and was such a Sermon on the Mount friendly event.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    What happened to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."?

    I swear the media likes to put the most r****ded people on TV. News television is a circus freak show and some of the politicians are the biggest freaks. What's worse is people actually think its news.
     
  7. edwardc

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    Just a ? so it's ok for muslims to what they want when they want and the world just has to except it
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Not only in Gaza:

    Muslim boys urinated on Bible

    TWO Muslim students have been expelled from an Islamic school in Melbourne for urinating and spitting on a Bible and setting it on fire.

    The explosive incident has forced the East Preston Islamic College to call in a senior imam to tell its 650 Muslim students that the Bible and Christianity must be respected.

    Anxious teachers at the school have also petitioned principal Shaheem Doutie, expressing "grave concern" about an "inculcation of hatred and radical attitudes towards non-Muslims" at the school, including towards non-Muslim teachers.

    The Bible desecration took place last week at a school camp held near Bacchus Marsh, about 50km west of Melbourne, attended by 33 teenage Muslim boys ranging in age from Year7 to Year 10.

    A school report of the incident, obtained by The Australian, says it happened late at night and involved three students and another two watching.



    "The main perpetrator (a Year 7 student) urinated on the Holy Bible, tore some pages from the Holy Book and burnt them then finally spat on the Holy Book," the report says.

    The second boy, from Year 9, "tore pages from the Holy Book and burnt them", while a third student, from Year 7, "tore pages from the Holy Bible and then he rolled it up like a cigarette and pretended to smoke it".

    The boys come from a variety of ethnic Muslim backgrounds -- one is believed to be an Albanian/Malaysian, another Lebanese and another Indonesian.

    Mr Doutie, whose school receives about $3.9 million in state and federal government funding each year, told The Australian yesterday that both he and the school community were appalled by the Bible desecration and that he had expelled the first two boys and suspended the third.

    In a letter to all staff on Monday, Mr Doutie wrote: "The school unconditionally apologises for this horrible act as conducted by some illiterate and ignorant students while under the care of EPIC teachers.

    "We regard the desecration of the Bible in a very serious light and therefore we have taken serious action against the offenders.

    "The Bible is an important book both for non-Muslims and Muslims and should be treated as a holy book by all religions."

    Mr Doutie said he did not believe that the boys realised the significance of their act.

    But to ensure it did not happen again he had called in the assistant imam of the Newport Mosque, Oman Haouli, to tell the students that the Bible was a sacred book. "My lesson to them was to respect their neighbours and respect all religions," Mr Haouli said yesterday.

    But the desecration incident has shaken the nerves of the school's teachers, about half of whom are non-Muslim.

    A petition signed by 22 teachers expressed "anguish and dismay at the grave incident of the desecration of the Holy Bible".

    "This whole incident implies a deep hatred inculcated in the students towards the Christians/non-Muslim teachers," it says.

    The petition said there had been "previous incidents of students misbehaving towards non-Muslim teachers".

    It called on the school to "take steps to rectify this explosive situation" to ensure the safety of teachers.

    Mr Doutie said the school had tried to contact the parents of the expelled boys to find out why they had desecrated the Bible. But he said the school had not received a response.

    EPIC is an eight-year-old primary and secondary school in Melbourne's north that caters mostly to the children of working-class immigrant Somali and Lebanese families.

    The Bible desecration comes at a time of heightened tension among Australia's 300,000-member Islamic community, many of whom believe their religion is being unfairly discriminated against because of terrorism fears.

    Many Muslims remain angry about the public humiliation suffered by their spiritual leader, the mufti Taj Din al-Hilali, after the Sheik likened female rape victims to pieces of meat who brought the attacks on themselves.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...rinated-on-bible/story-e6frg6nf-1111112640400

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    I'm sure there can be articles found about members of all kinds of religions desecrating the symbols of other religions. Why this case of one pastor wanting to burn a few quran books is getting so much attention is beyond me.

    The difference is that some Muslims all around the world - of course - went into "outrage" mode and "uuuuh we/our prophet/our holy book/our beards were disrespected let's riot" mode and violence mode again. You don't really see that to that extent from members of other religions.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    No, it's about there being a different standard of behavior in the United States of America than there being in a anarchic lawless hellhole warzone like Gaza City or whatever.
     
  10. nickb492

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    Really? Really? I'm sorry but this might be the stupidest thing I've ever read. You really don't think people don't do the exact same thing in the name of their religion? I will not show evidence but give you a tool so you can do the research yourself. It's called Google, ok and just type violence in the name of "blank". Please feel free to fill in the blank with any major religion you feel necessary. And no need to thank me for helping you get your own foot out of your arse because it seems that you were full of something.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    I just quoted an older article about some Muslims pissing on a bible and burning it.

    Did you see people in Western countries going all crazy and killing people over that?
     
  12. juicystream

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    How about we give all of these stupid bigots no attention?
     
  13. nickb492

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    Well what is your argument? That all Muslims are violent when something goes against their religion or eastern country Muslims are violent when their religion is defaced?
     
  14. trueroxfan

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    religion - how ironic is it that religion is the cause for so much of the violence and destruction in the world, not for the last 20 years, but for all of time. how many wars have been started by religious conflicts
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    Neither one of those. My argument is that for whatever reason, there is significantly more violence and outrage among Muslims than among followers of other religions as a reaction to a perceived "insult" to their religion. Maybe the media (both in the Muslim world and in the Western world) is partly at fault by "overhyping" these issues.
     
  16. g1184

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    OP: The article, which you already know, is from 2007. It's going to be hard to gage how much more or less coverage some story got today vs some other story three years ago. But, with any luck, in 2013 this Gainesville Pastor guy will be just as obscure.

    Your other point is spot on: American news-tertainment is abysmal.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. nickb492

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    Well what about the soldiers that joined the armed forces because they felt that Christianity had been attacked after 9/11 and wanted to defend it against Islam? Do you consider that a violent reaction?
     
  18. trustme

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    In that one article, the Priests name is spelled in three different ways.

    I clicked on the hyperlink (Father Musalam additionally told The Jerusalem Post) and no where on that website did it even mention the priest saying anything regarding this.

    What really happened in 2007?????

    Regardless, these actions were un-Islamic just as Terry's actions are going to be un-Christian tomorrow.
     
  19. trustme

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    Because those were stupid high school kids who did it, and got expelled from school for it. This is the pastor of the largest religion in the world, openly doing it and inviting people to take part in it. Just GTFO ATW.
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

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    I haven't heard about anything like that, but there might be cases. They are serving their country. What their particular motivation is, I don't know. It's not like they are rioting in the streets and randomly killing people.

    My argument was not that there are no wackos in other religions (or among atheists) as well. My observation is that a lot more people seem to be outraged a lot more easily and seem to be more violent in the Muslim world.
     

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