I have no idea why TCU thinks going to the MWC is a good move. They're trying their damnedest to get a BCS tie-in.. but will that really happen.. Utah, Colorado St., or New Mexico will likely be soaked up by the Pac-10 when it expands. I can't help but think the MWC will be the death of that program. How are you going to recruit for that conference? They are the eastern most school in that conference by a long, long distance. No rivalries, no regional battles, almost all of their games will be in a different timezone, parents won't even be able to watch their kids on TV..
Yeah, I'm bringing down the value of your degree, just like how I will bring down your property value when I move next door! I'm your worst nightmare!!!
UT and Rice are liberal? UT does seem that way, but in reality it's got some of everything. No matter what you are, you've got plenty of company. Rice, at least in the mid-90's, wasn't as liberal as you might have thought. You could be religious or conservative there and still fit in fairly well (aside from dealing with a few of the usual jerks which you'll find anywhere). Most people seemed to want to carve their own path in life; they weren't particularly political. Most of them didn't just follow, say, a "right wing" or "left wing" party line, but made up their minds depending on the issue. Not too many fans of the traditional political parties. Campus Crusade for Christ was one of the largest and most active organizations on campus. If you had conservative moral views, you at least had plenty of company. Sure, there were the people who would do just about anything (and did), but there were also the people who never even drank or anything. There weren't as many in-betweens.
TCU in the Big 12? Now that's a good one. Just last week, TCU was introducted to Big 12 football by Tech. Baylor's overall athletic program is better than TCU.
TCU's defense is not the monster it was last year, by a long shot. I expect many other programs to roll up the numbers on them this year. Maybe not as much as Tech did, but Tech can put up those numbers against any team with a mediocre defense.
Agreed that Tech can put up big numbers against a lot of teams. I hear a lot of talk from TCU backers that they are so superior to Baylor. Maybe in football and possibly basektball but overall, it's not close.
Yes, but there are millions of television viewers in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area-- that fact being more than enough to offset the marginal contributions Baylor makes to the conference's overall strength. Not to mention, the conference is about football first, basketball second, and all of the non-revenue and Title IX sports next. Baylor is a non-entity in football without even a strong regional following. BU's basketball program has never in its history been strong enough to justify keeping the school in the conference over a school that can add television market share (TCU). I don't see the argument for keeping Baylor in. The idea that Baylor's academics are of some benefit to the conference is absurd. US News ranks Baylor behind such academic heavyweights as Michigan State, Clemson and Virginia Tech. It's a decent school, nothing more; its academic reputation certainly doesn't excuse its inability to contribute to the conference in ways that really matter (television viewers and football/basketball competitiveness at the national level). The argument made sometimes, that "other conferences have small private schools" (Stanford, Northwestern, Vanderbilt), is amusing. Stanford and Northwestern are Ivy League-caliber universities, and Vanderbilt is consistently ranked among the 20 best schools (public and private) in America. Aside from the small size of the student body, Baylor has nothing in common with either of them. The analogy would fit if we were talking about Rice.
Baylor is in the Big 12 because their athletic program is better than TCU. Baylor's academic reputation speaks for itself. Just because they don't rank high in some magazine's rankings doesn't mean they are "a decent school"
Yes, and that was my point. A school's academic reputation is not determined by wishful thinking by its alumni. Baylor is a decent school, better than UH but certainly not on par with schools like the University of Texas.
i think you can make the case that baylor's program in the early 90's was better than TCU's right now. baylor moved to #4 in the nation in 91 after beating Colorado in Colorado...i think that was the year after CU won the national championship, but i could be wrong. they beat good teams. the knock on TCU has been that they can't beat those kinds of teams. again...i don't know...difficult to compare, really. i grew up as a UT guy, and still am in large measure, my alma mater notwithstanding. i followed a girl to baylor.
bigtexx, Either you have some very poor reading comp skills or selective amnesia when it comes to your own posts. You insinuated that b/c the poster had liberal views, that he would have had a horrible time at Baylor. That's just asinine. It's still a college campus, with a population of over 12,000. Like I said, there are other campuses in the state that have reputations for being much more conservative - A&M & Tech for example.
TCU isn't even the "best private school academically" in the Metroplex, so just let it go. Hell, Rice has as good an argument that they should be in the Big 12 as do UH & TCU. It still amazes me how many people grip that Baylor is in the Big 12. They serve their purpose there. They excel at other sports, and they are a fball doormat for the big boys. They give the conference a small, religious, private university they can use to boost athletic grad rates, and the school has rich & powerful alumni for political pull. Baylor is in the Big 12 & not leaving. Sorry TCU & UH - deal with it already. This is like b****ing about the Rockets not trading Ralph Sampson to draft Michael Jordan. Pointless.
wasn't the timing of this also not too far after Uh was caught cheating etc at football.. all those violations in the late 80s?
