Rather trade Asik for a premiere wing defender than a stretch 4. Like Ersan too but he is a luxury for a team that already has Casspi, T-Ball and D-Mo.
Alex Len is a project but Miles Plumlee (11pts; 9rbs; 2blk's) is already putting up Asik type numbers. No way they block their growth now.
Look i just took someone elses three team trade from this thread and changed it up. But Plumlee is not a good defender like Asik is. That is the value in Asik isnt it? Otherwise hes pretty much worthless. If this was based on stats Asik would be close to worthless besides fact that he can rebound a little.
Not sure bucks would want Asik. They just extended sanders and spent the mle on pachulia and have udoh and Henson. They have a log jam at the 5. The only player that adds range for then in the front court is ilyasova so if anything he's stuck in Milwaukee. Ryan Anderson and milsap seem to be more realistic because they need rim protectors. Anthony Davis is to weak to play the 5 and horford hates playing the 5. We also have to take into account that asiks salary will jump up next year and that is tough for some small market teams to take.
If the Pelicans start winning now that Anderson is back I doubt they'll trade him. Pelicans and Anderson looked impressive yesterday in his 1st game back from injury granted it was against the 76ers but it was a blow out. Paul Millsap is interesting although he is only 6'8 so players can score over him a bit easier and a few years older than ilyasova and anderson. Don't watch him enough to see if hes a legit stretch 4. Does he got a mid - range game?
The more I think about acquiring Ilyasova the trade that makes the most sense for Milwaukee is a simple Lin for Ilyasova/Ridnour deal. Milwaukee needs a definitive starting PG and playmaker. Lin would be an ideal fit for them. And they really don't need Asik if they have Sanders/Udoh/Henson, etc. This deal could possibly be predicated on being able to move Asik somewhere for a draft pick. If we traded Asik for a pick and then moved DMo to Philly....Philly could then release Spencer Hawes outright and we could claim him on waivers. We would be below the cap if we moved out Asik and DMo together and we'd have enough space to claim Hawes outright. No other team could claim Hawes because they don't have the cap space. This would essentially be an Asik/Lin/DMo trade for Ilyasova/Hawes/Ridnour/pick deal. A big combo of Howard/Hawes/Ilyasova/Jones is a lot more versatile and has a lot more chemistry possibilities than what we have now. We remove the albatross of Asik and Lin's contracts. We get a pick. And our cap situation going into 2014 off season is very, very good. We would have the ability to carve out max cap space simply by trading Ilyasova and a pick somewhere. We'd have the ability to execute a sign-and-trade with Hawes and Ilyasova. And we could bring the guys back on favorable deals. Guys....I'm pumping Hawes for a reason. Hawes is the best shooting 5-man in the league. He could actually play alongside Dwight in spurts and create a terrible mismatch for teams that are playing big. And he can easily backup Dwight. His offensive skill set makes up for what we lose in the downgrade of Asik's defense to his defense...especially if you consider playing him as a backup alongside Jones whose greatest demonstrated skillset to date is his defense. Howard/Hawes/Ilyasova/Jones.....that's a great big combination.
Why wouldn't other teams ahead of Rockets on waiver wire not pick him up? If the Rockets did do an elaborate trade to free up cap room, they would have a trade exception and could use that to trade for Hawes with a top 55 protected pick.
I don't know where we are on waiver list but I don't think we would be able to pick him up so easily and also I think this kind of move would be illegal; if a trade is contingent on another move. It is sorta what happened with the whole KG to Clippers being tied to the doc rivers trade...
Very simply. No teams have enough cap space to claim Spencer Hawes outright. The only team that could claim Hawes outright if he was released after we traded Asik and DMo would be us.
I like the roster we have now, and don't see us being able to trade Asik for a significant upgrade at any position. Would much rather keep him. Otherwise, we're screwed any time we see "DNP-back spasms" (or like that) next to Dwight's line in the box score. If we have to lose Omer, then this is obviously the year to put a package together for a high, unprotected lottery pick. Parker, Randle, Wiggins, and Smart all look NBA-ready. Don't see how we could do that, either; still, in Morey I trust.
Asik is going to be traded. We have to accept that. I like our roster too. But the truth is we cannot win a championship like we are now. We still need to upgrade. And Asik needs to go somewhere where he can start. And he's going to be traded. Yes, we most definitely need a backup for Dwight in case he goes down. That's why I've been a huge advocate of keeping Asik. (Would still love to see it work.) But the truth is Asik is going to be traded. And WHEN Asik is traded we have to have that backup 5 man. I think we need the most quality backup 5-man we can get because: 1. Dwight is a small 5. Athletic as they come...he's still small. He's got to have a backup that can take on some of the Hibbert/Pek/Pau matchups where big huge strong guys and extremely long guys can put a body into him and neutralize him defensively. Look at the market for centers in this league. You're not going to find a better backup 5 than Hawes. He's an excellent offensive role player who would be perfect in our offensive system. His offensive skill set has the variance we need to play alongside Dwight or to backup Dwight and create loads of space for Harden to work with. And Hawes is adequate defensively and on the glass. He's not a sieve. He's a big 7 foot kid that can board and put a body on bigger, stronger opposing 5s that would have a tendency to overpower Dwight. I am advocating trading Asik and DMo for some combination of Hawes and whatever great shooting 4 we can get. Ilyasova or Millsap would be great. Ryan Anderson would be good if we weren't handing Asik off to the Pelies.
That's an easy thing for anybody to say since the odds of actually winning the championship are so small. Because the odds are small, that doesn't make it a true statement. The real truth is that we can win a championship the way we are now. It's all about the players playing well and the coaches coaching well. We have star players and very good role players, this team has what it needs to win.
No. We can't win a championship the way we are now. We probably can't get out of the second round the way we are now. We are not playing at anything close to an elite level on either end of the floor. Asik, even though he screwed up by asking out, deserves to be a starting center on his own team. If we aren't going to start him and get him 30 a night working with Dwight somehow then he needs to go. He isn't going to re-sign here when his contract expires. And if we wait until the off season to try to move him we will get less value with him going into his last season being owed $15 million. Asik needs to be traded and we need a trade to get to championship level...at least one trade....and possibly even more than one trade.
haha, probably should have clarified that it was just a hunch. Haven't looked into the possibility at all so don't flame me lol
