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Doc "I let McGrady play too early."

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    i'm sure tracy rehabbed, maybe not as rigorous as we all would like. but he did rehab i'm sure. but the rehab was NOT complete. he should have continued to rehab and focused on that instead of playing games to start the year. when you play games, it's hard to rehab b/c you don't want to give your body some rest in between games.

    again, both sides were at fault. tracy should have known his body. the moment he saw himself still limping, he should have said something.
     
  2. RV6

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    and before anyone start talking about the suns and their magical trainers:

    "During the 2005-2006 NBA pre-season, knee cartilage damage was discovered and Stoudemire underwent microfracture surgery on October 18, 2005. Initially, the Suns thought he would return by mid-February,[6] but his rehab took longer than expected. Stoudemire, however, made an attempt to return but did not play well, going scoreless against the New Jersey Nets on March 27, 2006. On March 28 it was announced that he would likely miss the rest of the regular season due to ongoing stiffness in both knees. His manager stated that the comeback happened a little too soon, and Stoudemire needed to do more rehab."

    It happens, EVERYWHERE, even in the magical healing land of Phoenix. Had Amar'e kept playing whenhe first came back he'd be in a similar situation as tmac, playing , then sitting, coming back, etc. difference is amare shut it down earlier.

    I hope everyone reads this and finally gets it through their head that this kind of stuff happens in sports because there's so much pressure on both sides, the doctors and athlete, to come back ASAP, ultimately they both share the blame. Quit whining about the doctors and trainers.
     
  3. RV6

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    No one said anything about letting the patient have the final say or only say, i said they provide FEEDBACK, for the DOCTOR, to make HIS decision. The doctors obviously use other info as well, but there's no way to measure pain as far as i'm concerned, is there?? you can measure swelling, see bruising, or see a problem, a break, a tear, etc, but pain can't be identified without the patient's help. if the swelling is gone, the scans show the knee to be functionally stable and Tmac reports no pain, what else can the doctor do? Is he gonna say, no my gut tells me he's not ok yet? No, he has to base his conclusion on facts, observations, etc. Limping doesn't really mean much as that can be psychological. People sometimes keep limping even after they are ok out of habit or because they are afraid to put pressure on the joint, it doesn't always mean there's pain forcing them to limp.
     
  4. rezdawg

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    Exactly! This is similar to dentistry...when I have a patient that has had problems with chewing on his left side and therefore has resorted to chewing with the right side...I fix the left side, yet the patient still continues to chew with the right in fear of having something go wrong with the left, even though the left is fixed.

    TMac could very well be limping to keep weight off his knee...he could just be favoring in fear of having something happen to it.
     
  5. juanschwartz

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    Yeah, the doctor is going to soil his good name to shield T-Mac from criticism. Cool.

    It's funny because people that have it in their head that T-Mac sucks or whatever aren't going to believe the words coming out of the man's mouth unless it supports their presumptuous view on the situation.
     
  6. tom0908

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    i don't believe that the Doctor made a mistake fot t-mac's insury.the boss of the rockets want to blandish t-mac and trade him in the next season.
     
  7. HumbleDan

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    Look people in REHAB. of professionals you test, test, test, and re-test with systems such as Jump testing system which is extremely accurate and eliminatess guesswork, test that give fatigue factor ratings and ratios. The mis-stakes which can happen when you allow the injuried to determine they are ready to return which is still you error. So, let stop some of the hate I read all the time here< Iam a fan that go to games, look at the games and seek all and any information about my team, THE HOUSTON ROCKETS, that why I read bot not post, most of the posts is BS.
     
  8. cfansnet

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    That's part of his superior HMO plan that only superstars get. It's called the, "It's-not-my-fault" insurance. Very expensive...
     
  9. Doc Rocket

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    Actually, 'nom' is to be said FOUR times - not three.
     
  10. allforone

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    a man to admit his fault, but profession-wise...... :mad:
     
  11. bob718

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    Can we finally reach the conclusion that rockets team doctors are incompetent?
     
  12. Jeff Who

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    That is unbelivable. It is a professional league. I have always known that Rockets' doctors suck, but come on. They should be FIRED.
     
  13. bob718

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    the difference is rox team doctors keep telling tmac to play through it when in fact he shouldn't.
     
  14. Jeff Who

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    I am with you in this one, brother.

    They missed a fracture in Yao's foot last year. This year they forced McGrady to play when he shouldn't.

    It is not like they should take ALL THE BLAME, but somebody should be fired.
     
  15. Lurch

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    we should buy this guy a gift....if it wasnt for him T-vagina might actually be playing for us..



    scary...i know
     
  16. TXRoxBBall

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    The way I read the thing on ESPN it seemed like the team was having him play to early. It didn't look good from a team perception standpoint, but maybe I just misread.
     
  17. jevon3012

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    Whoa.. its like all the **** came out of their holes. How many of you bothered to read what the doc actually said? He didn't actually say anything definitive. Everything he said was with a maybe or a perhaps or hinting that Tmac wanted to come back early. This is a PR move for the DOCTOR. Now that Dr. Tmac has decided he needs surgery, the doctor is just covering himself.
     
  18. PDJACK7

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    Stockton and Kidd were/are two guys that did not have to rely on jumping high on jump shots or athletic ability to get to the hole but TMac does. Stock and Kidd are two warriors that could and would play through pain and didn't miss many games at all (TMac has missed more games then both of them combined). Then when you think about all the other guys (P. Hardaway, A. Houston etc..) who career ended because of this procedure that is mold of guys TMac game fits. Then when you factor in that he just don't take pain well or rehab how he should, then that make his comeback alot longer. And if TMac can't jump he is useless to any team.
     
  19. Jeff Who

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    The thing is that T-Mac injury is not as serious as Houston's or Hardaway's. He is missing ONLY 0,5 cm of his cartilage and it is on a non-weight-bearing bone beneath the kneecap.

    That means his chances of quick recovery improve a LOT. And I do belive he is gonna take care of his rehab this time.
     
  20. HTownrocketfan

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    Didn't T-Mac say that he wasn't a 100% at the start of the season? They should have brought his fagile butt back slowly.
     

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