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Doc "I let McGrady play too early."

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. Dave_78

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    Because he is the team's doctor.
     
  2. Hydhypedplaya

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    The doctor taking a public hit on his reputation and possibly tarnishing his career just to make Tmac feel better makes no sense to me...Why would he do that?

    Do I believe tmac is sensitive and weak hearted...YES but that doesn't mean he is not injured....I think it is time for everyone to finally open their eyes and see that he really is hurt and to back off him a little bit...I mean when Yao went down for the year I didn't see any hate on this board saying Yao quit etc etc etc. Probably because they knew it was an injury that Yao couldn't play on...well i think its become pretty apparent that Tmac can't play thru his injury either.
     
  3. rezdawg

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    The mistake wasnt in the surgery...the mistake was in clearing TMac to play. Thats not a difficult thing to assess...Dr. Clanton has done thousands of surgeries, Im sure he has a good handle on recovery time. Unfortunately, he didnt realize what kind of person he was dealing with in TMac.
     
  4. Vinsanity

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    Or is it just you, trying to cover your own image?
     
  5. bbjai

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    You guys are hilarious, this is seen as some kind of PR Stunt by many of you and its a doctor pretty much putting his own credibility on the line for Tracy Mcgrady and you still think his a r****d.

    What do you guys need for him to prove he has a real injury that is more complicated then seems? Short of the guy cutting open his knee for half of you and showing that he needs microfracture I think noone will believe him regardless.

    His decisions and common sense has not been top notch this season but some of this hate is ridiculous. IS IT NOT CLEAR IN THE ARTICLE THAT HE CONSIDERED MICROFRACTURE SURGURY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON?????????

    Seriously how hard is that to understand. The safer and easier option was taken which is done alot in Sports. Its like Yao last year not taking surgury immediately but went to do rehabilitation instead so he could make the Olympics. Sometimes it works out like it did in Yao's case sometimes it doesn't like in Tracy's case. Sure his rehab doesn't appear to be brilliant either but that doesn't mean you need to hate on him like dog. I didn't see anyone hating on him when he was carrying the team last playoffs on one leg and one shoulder. He could have just called it last season and got the surgury then. But no.
    Keep hating fellas, its real mature of you guys.
     
  6. Vinsanity

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    People won't open their eyes because they don't want to admit they were wrong about Tmacs injury. Our doctors botched it and now the truth is coming out. FROM THE DOCTOR'S MOUTH!
     
  7. TTRocket

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    I highly doubt the doctor would lie like this and risk his reputation so McGrady can save face. That being said, it doesn't sound like any of this was the cause of this situation being what it is. Just tough luck because of Juwan's curse. :p
     
  8. Hydhypedplaya

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    I'm honestly just tired of the one sided hate...I freaking hate how Yao gets a pass for almost anything on this board, but you will see the majority of the board hating on Tmac (and most of the time its not even rationale)
     
  9. swyyyguy

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    no matter how experienced a doctor is, they can still make mistakes.
     
  10. angrykitty

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    Any surgery, even with the very best doctors, can end with a poor result. Why do you think they have you sign waivers. We tend to think that if the surgery was done, it must have turned out fine and if not, it is all T-Mac's fault for not working hard enough in rehab. To an extend, he has brought this on himself by his past words and actions, so everyone assumes the worst. This current injury was a very small 1/2 centimeter spot that took an advanced MRI to find. T-Mac knew his body was telling him it was not right while the doctors (and it seems, Rockets coaches and management) were telling him there should not be anything wrong. That will play with your mind. But again, for some, T-Mac does not get the benefit of the doubt due to his reputation.
     
  11. Dave_78

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    So we should expect for the other specialists who agreed with Clanton but are not on the Rockets payroll to also admit fault? Don't count on it. He is the Rockets team doctor and he is doing damage control. Trust me, this isn't going to affect his reputation or his business.
     
  12. TTRocket

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    Just out of curiosity, what would it take for you to exculpate McGrady from blame?

    The article pretty clearly stated that Tracy himself wanted to rush back early in the season to play for this team. Then the whole back to back offs, repeated doctor visits, and now possibly career ending surgery. Sounds like someone who wants to play, not someone who wants to quit now that we have all the info.
     
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    I think you are confusing what the doctor's botched. Multiple doctors have said that TMac's knee is in a condition that he should be able to play through. We are talking about the best doctors in the country. It was TMac that continued getting opinions until he found a doctor that would give him what he wants...and that's an excuse for his poor play.
     
  14. Vinsanity

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    What other specialists told Mcgrady to just "play on it" ? Can you provide a link to that?
     
  15. engr_alex

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    pure blind hatred. not to mention that the doctor's statement throws a pie in their faces for blaming tmac all the time. the dude is definitely injured. dont these people understand that?

    and why would you think this is a PR stunt? a doctor's reputation is the most important thing about him. if it gets tarnished (by announcing he made a mistake), it'll ruin him professionally? why take the hit for tmac? is les paying the doctor billions to risk his rep?
     
  16. rezdawg

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    The surgery wasnt a mistake though. If anything, Dr. Clanton didnt realize TMac would need twice the regular recovery time.
     
  17. shastarocket

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    It seems like the former rather than the latter when multiple doctors agree
     
  18. NotInMyHouse

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    Taking one for the team.
     
  19. Dave_78

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    Dr. Andrews and the Suns team physician. Find the link yourself. It's posted here repeatedly.
     
  20. bbjai

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    I disagree with this statement in a way because as the doctor stated, Tracy was part of this decision himself. I just don't like how people treat it like as if there was nothing wrong with T-mac and his a complete and utter girl for not being able to stand up to some knee pain. If Microfracture was considered BEFORE they did the arthoscopic surgury its a serious injury that POSSIBLY could impede him in a large way. As the season has progressed it has shown it has.

    He is just as responsible for it, but all this hate is quite injustified if its directed at his injury. His BEHAVIOUR however has been ridiculous and should be hated on.
     

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