Do You Want Obama to pursue Prosecution For Torture

wrong again.

The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) — including the use of waterboarding — caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.

Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”

According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack — which KSM called the “Second Wave”– planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles.”​

 

sure: see post above to FB.

 

Thanks so much. Now I know why you just post articles and one-liners, when you try to open your mouth it is incredibly embarrassing for you.

Tell me, did this plot of KSM to attack Los Angeles involve a flux capacitator?

Did it involve a wormhole?

Please tell me how Al Qaeda planned to rupture the fabric of space-time?

The reason why I ask is thus:

How could they have broken up an "imminent" threat to Los Angeles that was discovered and foiled in 2002.....

by torturing a guy who was not captured till 2003?

 

PWNED

 

oh my

 

When you have to do something 183 times it is not working.


And basso congrats on being caught in another lie.

 

you're assuming there was only one plot against LA, and you're further assuming that plots against LA were the only useful info KSM gave up. lastly, you're positing that KSM could not have been involved in the 2002 attack because he wasn't captured until 2003, or that the capture of those other cell members meant the plot was canceled.

none of these positions is logically consistent. and what did KSM's statement, "Soon you will know" refer to?

but, i must admit i'm impressed with your contention that waterboarding is worse than execution.

 

Truth

I would bold the whole report. Read it. Nothing more needs to be said.

 

Epic source fail...
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The Times?

the whole article is behind the subscriber wall:

WASHINGTON – President Obama’s national intelligence director told colleagues in a private memo last week that the harsh interrogation techniques banned by the White House did produce significant information that helped the nation in its struggle with terrorists.

“High value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al Qa’ida organization that was attacking this country,” Adm. Dennis C. Blair, the intelligence director, wrote in a memo to his staff last Thursday.

Admiral Blair’s assessment that the interrogation methods did produce important information was deleted from a condensed version of his memo released to the media last Thursday. Also deleted was a line in which he empathized with his predecessors who originally approved some of the harsh tactics after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

“I like to think I would not have approved those methods in the past,” he wrote, “but I do not fault those who made the decisions at that time, and I will absolutely defend those who carried out the interrogations within the orders they were given.”​

 

basso, you truly are the idiot who keeps on giving.

I'm assuming this because it's the position you took when you claimed his torture broke up an "imminent" threat to destroy Los Angeles. I asked you if you were referring to the Library tower plot. You affirmed that you were. Read your posts dumbass.

No, I'm positing that his torture in 2003 could not have broken up a plot that was already broken up in 2002.. Note the portions I typed in large font in order to illustrate this factor - that is why everybody is laughing at you in subsequent posts.

Here is the Bush Administration's own press briefing in 2003 on the subject:

Bill: That's a 20-0 run Clyde, he's getting run off the court!

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But anyway, please provide this evidence of this new plot that was foiled after 2003 that was the exact same as the old plot. You were very clearly referring to the 2002 plot earlier (because you read the Theissen garbage off some blog and ate it up like the little lapdog in a bag that you are)....when the whole temporal rift issue came up, you have now shifted gears to some hypothetical new plot. I'd love to hear about it, or not.

So says the guy who argues that 2003 < 2002.

 

epic. just epic.

 

Read the whole thing... and has any quote ever summed this up better than the one I bolded?

Incidentally, this little nugget appears towards the bottom...

A distinction that means nothing.

Again, if Dem heads roll over this, so be it. They could have led instead of cowering.

 

Definitely.

 

It's at times like these that I can't figure out if basso is really this clueless or if he's pretending.

 

Absolutely.

 

Sam- Dennis Blair says the interrogations yielded valuable intelligence, that enhanced interrogation worked.

Why are you calling the Obama admin idiots?

 

oh, now basso is too flummoxed and flustered to even come up with a cheeky song lyric....

basso was posting away with glee as usual, until all of a sudden his posts got flip-turned upside down. Let's take a minute and sit, and explain how he assumed the crown of dunces, breathing in some good air.

Somewhere east of the Hudson, where his adulthood has been spent, ol' bassmaster was in the Clutchfans D&D forum where he spends most of his days. He was posting, quoting, linking all cool, when all of a sudden a posting horde, obviously with bad intentions, started making trouble in his favorite message board. He got owned - embarrassingly so.

I mean it was one little ownage, and his mom got scared, she said "He's movin' with his auntie and uncle in Bel-Air.

I whistled for a cab and when it came near
The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I can say this cab is rare
But I thought 'Nah forget it' - 'Yo homes to Bel Air'

I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo homes smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air

 

I heard this on 10 10 WINS this morning, which is NYC's news and traffic.

So now we have the OBama's top intelligence guy admitting that enhanced techniques defined as torture yielded valuable information that kept America safe.

This should be the silver bullet that finally puts to bet the idea that torture can't give us valuable info.

Now that doesn't mean torture is morally right, and you can argue against it on other grounds....but on the one that torture doesn't work, well, I think there's a strong case that it has it's uses.

 

Sam, given the constant effort you put in attempting to parry my posts, it's fair to ask, "who owns whom?"