Do You Want Obama to pursue Prosecution For Torture

Um, I'd say helping to mastermind the murder of 3,000 Americans degrades KSM. Surely you can recognize that. Right?

Good grief there are some kooks out there. It's amazing how their ridiculous arguments and positions can cause them to lose sight of the bigger picture...

 

And I would prefer that in a measure between the USA and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to see who can be more self-degredatingly hateful, sadistic, and twisted, that only one of the two contestants makes any progress.

If your argument is that we should take behavioral cues from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, T_J, then I find that to be entirely consistent with your past philosophical musings. I do find it suprising that anybody would agree with you, besides the other two Stooges.

 

which is?

 

Man, some of you all are sick, sick, people to condone torture. Maybe the reason terrorist cells exist to begin with are to combat the gross murderous practices of this government for decades? ~1 million dead Iraqis and no one even bats an eye, if roles were reversed I'd bet that plenty of people here would become 'terrorists'. Torture only escalates the problem. There's also some speculation that the children of the '9/11 perpetrators' were tortured.

http://rawstory.com/08/blog/2009/04...unt-that-911-suspects-children-were-tortured/

 

On the plus side, TJ isn't going to mind at all when the DHS sends him to Gitmo and waterboards him. After all, it's just like washing you hands right?

And everyone at Gitmo is coddled and eats Chcken a la Orange 6 nights a week right? It's basically a Cuban Vacation according to Hannitard.

When are you volunteering again?

 

which is finding unreliable information and running with it. i believe it's the third paragraph on page 4 of the republican playbook. just after the section about facts having a liberal bias and before the detailed tips on how to wrap oneself in the flag without looking completely douchey and hypocritical.

 

I think it's more important to get useful information out of him, stop future attacks, protect American troops, and citizens, than to torture him, and end up losing out on valuable intel.

 

I love that you think you know more than the CIA/military as to how best to extract intel....and I'm sure that you'll trot out some unreliable quotes from Senate hearings or public figures (i.e. unreliable, influenced sources) to try to make your counterpoint... the proof is in the pudding -- the people behind the scenes who don't have to deal with the public scrutiny are going to use what they think is best. We shouldn't limit their choices. They wouldn't do it if they didn't think it was effective.

What would you propose as an alternative to get a terrorist to talk? Truffles and mint juleps? Gawd you folks are naive.

 

Look who else thinks torture works?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/18/limbaugh-torture-works-be_n_188633.html



I hope John has something to say about this. I know he does.

 

Just wow. Limbaugh attacks McCain's proud history in order to justify torture -- it's like these guys are literally trying to see how low they can go.

 

and makes our point for us. mccain gave false information.

 

Oh, now this is irony. I'd say the liberals went pretty darn low, attacking McCain's proud history during the campaign. Funny how that comes full circle now that you need to use him as a prop for your argument.

no cred...

 

john kerry is such a wuss!

 

how's that Swift boat campaign going?

talk about no cred...

[edit] Do'h! SWT beat me to it...

 

Don't bring John Kerry into this and compare him to McCain. Kerry's service was anything but honorable. He left 'Nam on a technicality after faking three injuries, then went home and lied about the 'atrocities' committed by US troops. Don't forget the video camera he took with him to tape everything (obviously for future political use). It was a total sham.

 

What we need is a few lessons from...

 

Poor Jorge....

McCain defends Kerry's war record.

 

I'd like to see what McCain has to say in private... public statements don't mean schit.

 

Are you calling McCain a liar?!?!?

 

how come you right wing nutcases can't talk about things in public?

i think they teach public speaking at many high schools. sorry about the dropping out, bro.