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Do you want JVG back next year?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AGBee, May 5, 2007.

  1. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

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    Don't hold back...tell us how you really feel.

    I think most of us feel exactly the same way. Well said.
     
  2. Jonhty

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    I want JVG gone and we bring in Brown or whoever then go on to lose another first round just to prove all the haters wrong.
     
  3. crash5179

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    Why is it that some coaches consistently come in and find a way to win and have success in the play offs regardless of where they go?

    I submit to you exhibit A...Don Nelson. He just seems to know how to win and he consistently has success in the play-offs. 1st year in the play-offs with Dallas and he beats what most people consider a superior team in Utah lead by Stockton and Malone. Now his first year in GS (a team that has not sniffed the play-offs in years) he not only gets in the play-offs but upsets one of the best regular season teams ever (oh yeah they were also the defending WCF champs).

    Rick Adelmon is another coach that just seams to know how to win that consistantly has success in the play-offs. Larry Brown, Phil Jackson. The list is out there.

    Your right players play...they just seem to play better for some coaches.
     
  4. LakersPride

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    You guys are so dumb.

    JVG did a wonderful job when Yao got injured!

    TELL ME IF IT WAS HIS FAULT THE PLAYERS Couldn't get offensive rebounds??? stop pulling JVG as the scapegoat.

    its not like he made Yao only rebound 6 times!!!!!

    if there is 1 person to blame its Tmac... afterall its on him.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I attribute it to the atmosphere that those coaches create, they are willing to live with mistakes from their players....it breeds confidence.

    Coaches like JVG who micromanage everything suck the confidence from their players...they consistently talk about how they are not running the system correctly.

    Give me a coach who is a bit more of a gambler....any day of the week.

    DD
     
  6. monkeyboy32

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    It doesnt matter who our coach is as we dont have all the pieces. Those of you that are calling for JVG's head are nuts. Take a look at our bench and role players. He came into an organization loaded with bad contracts and no cap. There is only so much you can do. I love the guys on our team as they all play with a lot of heart and determination, but guys like Rafer, Luther, Juwon, JL3, Novak arent going to cut it. As much as I hate Rafer as a player, I still applaud him for doing the best he can.
     
  7. crash5179

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    I agree a coach can creat an atmosphere that makes the offense run smoother. JVG micro manages IMO and creats an atmosphere were players are afraid to step outside his structured offense or miss a shot.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    JVG made no adjustments during the series....none....and Utah finally got comfortable on offense because they figured out Houston's scheme and how to attack it.

    JVG told his team not to foul with 9 seconds to go and your team down 2.

    JVG overplayed his starters all year and they were all gassed at the end of this game just like so many other games against quality competition during the regular season.

    JVG puts Yao in a position to fail by asking him to guard a perimeter player on a pick and roll when Yao is physically unable to do it.

    JVG does not develop anyone on his bench who could help him in situations where they need a Plan B.

    JVG has no Plan B

    JVG ---- BUUUUUUHHHHH BYYYYYYYEEEEE

    DD
     
  9. Jonhty

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    how about our so-call superstars? did they play like one? if Yao dominated inside like Shaq, or TMac hit his jumpers like Kobe, this series would even be close. Blame your stars before you do role players.
     
  10. RareAir

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    Ain't no kool aid here...
    I guess that zone you're preaching would solve all the world's problems....
    Call it what you want, the rockets just weren't good enough to win...the last minute of the game proved it....can't get a rebound, can't knock down a shot and CAN'T come up with a stop when you need it.
    Stop all this garbage about zone's and jvg's stuborness....cause i know you sure as hell couldn't coach this team...
    if you think JVG's so bad, Who would be a better coach for this team???
     
  11. crash5179

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    Bench and role players have to be developed...does anyone think Paul Milsap played as well as he did in this series with out Jerry Sloan allowing him to mature over the course of the season?

    How about Bonzi Wells? The Kings sure found away to utilize him in last years play-offs. He damn near destroyed the Spurs by himself and yet JVG could not find a way to utilize him.

    If our bench talent was so thin then why did JVG refuse Mike James at the trade deadline when CD had a trade worked out?

    No...your wrong its most definitely JVG's fault.
     
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    Rick Adelman
     
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    Have you taken a look at the role players along side Kobe/Shaq those years? Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Fisher, Horce Grant, Shaw,Ron Harper, etc....

    What happened once those guys left the Lakers? They lost in the playoffs to the Spurs and had to reload with Malone and GP. It takes a whole team to win PERIOD. Yao/Tmac can not simply carry the load when others players cant knock their shots. Even when the Lakers had Malone/GP they couldnt win because they were not deep enough.
     
  14. RareAir

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    How many teams did Don Nelson take to the finals?
     
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    I loved JVG these past four seasons. I always supported him. Now, after this game, this is the most disappointed I've ever been. I wanted his contract to be renewed. This loss is totally inexcusable, though. He needs to go now; that is clear.
     
  16. RareAir

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    Cause those coaches have better players...
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Let's find out !

    Let's get a new coach in here and see.

    DD
     
  18. crash5179

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    Finals or not he has had both a ton more regular season and post season success than JVG. Nelson seems to have some degree of post season success every year. Can't say that for JVG can you.

    Once again...some players just play better for other coaches.
     
  19. LakersPride

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    PLEASE READ MY POST.

    JVG is not the problem leave him alone. blame the superstars.
     
  20. crash5179

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    BS.

    Nelson took over a team and made mid season changes as he saw fit. GS is the same basic team that could not sniff the play-offs but Nelson takes over and presto...they are in the second round after beating the Mavs.

    JVG was the architect for the Rockets and he just plain sucks.
     

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