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Do you think the Rockets would have won both of them championships if MJ never left?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by T-mac&Yao=RING, Feb 8, 2008.

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If MJ never retires do the Rockets win both rings?

  1. Yes they would have won them anyway.

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  2. No the Bulls would have won them both.

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  3. No they win one and the Bulls take the other one.

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  1. Jerry36

    Jerry36 Member

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    If the Rockets were better than the bulls, how come they couln't get to the finals in 96, 97, and 98.
     
  2. Blake

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    Because they were not better than the Bulls in 96, 97 or 98. No one was.

    However, in 1995, a season where MJ did come back and play, we SWEPT a team that beat Chicago in the playoffs.

    Why didn't you respond to the post about MJ's playoff averages in 1995? Bulls homers love to point out that MJ was not playing like MJ in the 95 playoffs, yet he averaged 31.5 points and had a better shooting percentage than he did in the 96,97 and 98 playoffs. His assists, rebounding, 3 pt % were all also better in the 1995 playoffs than they were in 2 out of 3 championship seasons following 1995.

    I'm not arguing about 96-98. When they got Rodman, the Bulls were one of the best teams in the history of the NBA. In 1994 and 1995, they were not.
     
  3. Jerry36

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    That was because he left. IF he hadn't left they would have beat the rockets, because they would have the same team that won the championship.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    since u bull fans are here, why don't tell us scottie pippen sux when he left the bulls. and why horry won 5 more championships.
     
  5. tinman

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    why don't u do like your hero jordan and retire from here for two years. we'll stop the entire site like how u think the nba didn't exist when your idol left.
     
  6. juju14

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    U do relize that thats from one series while the other is from four series. right?????It's harder to do it for longgg time.He played like one series against the magics.
     
  7. macalu

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    so tell me...who was going to stop Micheal Jordan in the 1995 championship if the Bulls made it? It certainly wasn't going to be Madmax...who wasn't even on the team b/c he's a quitter.
     
  8. tinman

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    mario elie.
    sleepy floyd
    vernon maxwell
    robert reid.

    they are d-ed up jordan. oh, when jordan gets past them, they have this dream guy in the middle and this horry guy who can block shots.

    look up the stats macalu
     
  9. Drexlerfan22

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    Oh yes. Clearly, if they had the same team as when they won the championship before, there's no way they'd stop winning. That's why the Spurs have all those consecutive championships: because they kept the same team. Oh wait...

    Not to mention Ho Grant was gone in 1995, which turned Chicago into an entirely average team, Jordan or no Jordan.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Totally immaterial. The Bulls had no prayer of making it to the finals without a star power forward.

    That's like asking "if the Heat make the finals this year, who's going to contain Wade? Oh the humanity!"

    The answer is that it doesn't matter, because the Heat aren't gonna be in the finals.
     
  11. david_rocket

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    So are you saying that Jordan could play with a bunch of bad players and without Pippen, Rodman, etc. and still won the NBA Finals, because Jordan in 96 was in better shape. :eek: :rolleyes:

    and I always wondered if Jordan was not in his top condition (which he was) why returning in the end of the season, why not wait until the next season, so he could get in shape. :rolleyes:

    Please to a bulls forum, to worship Jordan, not here.

    and tinman, keep posting those articles about the rockets vs the bulls, they are amazing, is nice to know more facts about this subject, this is the first I read them, thanks. :cool:
     
  12. ChrisP

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    Follow the link.

    1995
    10 games, 420 mins.

    1996
    18 games, 733 mins.

    Smaller sample size, sure, but 10 games and two series is enough to matter. Point is, he played better in 95 than 96. They just weren't good enough.
     
  13. IROC it

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    Denial is a river that runs through Chicago.
     
  14. Blake

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    But they didn't make it. They lost. To a team we swept. And MJ played as well as he did in the 96-98 playoffs.

    Thanks for playing
     
  15. Blake

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    What? MJ was on the team in the 95 playoffs. :confused:

    Obviously that team wasn't good enough so they made the trade of the decade by getting Rodman for Perdue. After that trade, they were unstoppable
     
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    U don't know what could of happen in 8 more gnms.
     
  17. tinman

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    neither do you. but you do know what happened when they did play each other.

    If the Rockets win the championship this year, does it not count if Yao doesn't play?
     
  18. MadMax

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    Honestly, I'm blown away by this argument. MJ had played around 20 games in the regular season. He's a pro athlete, and one of the best pro athletes of all time. Do you think he was just getting fat on the couch?? He came back and looked like Mike. Mike without a PF.

    MJ's play in the 1995 playoffs completely betrays your argument that he was out of shape. He shot for a higher percentage and averaged more points than he would the next season, after playing a full season. You continue to ignore this point every time it's brought up.
     
  19. tinman

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    thanks!
    that's the purpose of my posts, facts so people can become BETTER Rocket fans. the average fan didn't know that Dream made the finals in 1986, just his second year in the league. And yes he was awesome in the 80s too!
     
  20. Angkor Wat

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    Actually, he only played 17 games. And I don't care how good you are, you don't miss a full season and the majority of the next season of NBA basketball and come back the same player. Sure he wasn't sitting on his butt the whole time but there is no substitute for 92-feet of NBA basketball. Although, that just shows you how great he was the way people expect MJ to be at top form after missing all that time.

    Another examples of his greatness would be that some fans are actually knocking a 38-year old Jordan for not taking the Wizards to the playoffs and win some titles. I agree, so what if Jordan was 38? He had great players like Kwame Brown, Christian Laettner, Ty Lue, Popeye Jones, Jahdi White, Etan Thomas, Anthony Goldwire, Bryon Russel, Charles Oakly, Brian Cardinal and Pre-Pistons Rip who was traded the next year for Stackhouse. I blame MJ for not taking those great teams to the Finals, let alone the playoffs. :mad:
     

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