Do you think the Rockets got better or worse (on paper)?

What I want to know is if there were any deals where we could swap Bonzi straight up for a decent PG. I get the feeling that moving Mike James was the biggest priority so that killed any shot of getting a good PG even with Wells included.

So we traded a good rotation player and a big contract for a washed up, undersized shooter. If a deal was out there to get a real PG straight up for Bonzi then we should be very upset.

 

Aw man did yall hear that!!? We could of had ARTEST FOR BROOOKS AND WELLS!!!

 

bs. where did u hear that?

 

David Aldridge

 

Le$ & Feigen - EXPOSED!!

 

Source? That's just surreal & you know it.

I still like these trades simply for dumping James' contract. And yes I want AB to get more playing time than he's going to get this year.

Damn, I just want one year where I think we've got a legit shot... 3 years ago was possible after the all-star break, but I want a team for a season that I can see beating anybody. Been a long time...

 

there are no guarentee in play in the nba, as you see shawn marion miss like 10 free throws tonight.

what we do know is that bonzi wells was playing his ass off, and that we traded a no PT guy with another possible no PT guy in gerald green.

 

Yeah, but like Mike Fratello said, we're playing the Hornets soon.

Look for our streak to get busted big time. Wells is gonna kill us in that game. Wells is gonna kill us in the playoffs if we meet NO.

Cheap @$$ Les. We don't even need major upgrades. Just get guys like Kurt Thomas and Delonte West and we're right up there with the best of the West. But no, he wants to dump salary to get under the lux tax. BS. Especially since Seattle pretty much gave Thomas and West away on 2 consecutive days for borderline scrubs except Brent Barry. Total BS on our team's part.

 

Man why is everyone attached to Bonzi, Mike James, and Snyder. We made good trades.

We got out of a contract (6.4 million next year) on a guy that is not going to play. We picked up a guy with potential AND we opened up minutes for Landry. These trades were to bring in a playoff vet who Adelman knows and also to open up minutes for Landry.

 

Hmm true I forgot that Bonzi + Mike James + Snyder = Why this team has been so dominating during this win streak

 

I'm not attached to Snyder or James at all. I thought Bonzi was an important piece of the rotation and was currently the only guy actually going to the rim with consistency. I felt like he was an X factor that we have not had in a while.

I would have had no problem giving him up for a good PG. Instead, we got a guy who is elderly and is yet another SG trapped in a PG body.

 

We didn't lose much; we didn't gain much.

These trades have been done for monetary purposes only.

 

the only real loss was bonzi wells.

besides that, we lost nothing. james and snyder barely got playing time and were non-factors.

we get bobby jackson who is adept in adelman's system and we get a raw talent in green.

i'd say it's about even. financially though, the trades really benefited us.

 

I concur. Maybe the trades benefited us financially but talent wise we definitely got downgraded.

Especially after seeing Seattle trade two guys who would've really helped us - West and Kurt Thomas for spare parts from the Spurs and Cavs...It's just hard to swallow. I don't believe that our spare parts are inferior to what Seattle got for those 2.

If your'e talking about BJax backing up Rafer and having run Adelman's system before, I don't buy it. Maybe a couple of years ago but BJax is a dinosaur in terms of guard-age now. He's done. Over the hill. I understand he might give you more reassurance than AB, who hasn't shot the ball well, but I don't believe he's worth even half of the impact Bonzi can have on a game.

And before anyone questions what impact Bonzi gave us, I'm talking about size for size, athleticism for athleticism. Bonzi for all his faults is a mismatch on offense. Bobby Jackson if he plays 100% even at this age is still a midget SG trapped in a PG's body.

 

About even? What the hell?

I can't believe some of ya'll in here really don't realize how much we lost with Bonzi gone. Bonzi was arguably our best rebounder, our best slasher, and one of our best finishers. More than anything, he was a big body. Everybody else in the league knows we got taken in that deal with the Hornets.

ANYBODY would give up an aging 6'2 SG for Bonzi Wells.

He was the leader of our 2nd unit. Without him, I am not confident AT ALL about our team's chances anymore. Every game when the bench came in, guys would look to Bonzi to score or create for others off the block. Now what?

We gonna rely on Brooks (who is outrageously overhyped by this board), Head (who gets exposed on defense night in and night out), Landry (who can't create his own shot), and Jackson (who hasn't been relevant in about 4 years)??

Rockets lost a LOT by letting Bonzi go, to the Hornets of all teams.

 

The Rockets got themselves under the luxury tax so that they could try to add another player. The 10-day contract to Bobby Jones is just a stop-gap measure. I expect we'll sign another veteran to the team to fill in that wing position. And if none are to be had, we could always resign Mike Harris who worked with the Rockets all off-season and looked very good in the preseason.

 

You have no clue. Yes, Les saves some $$$ luxury tax wise, but he also sent cash considerations on both trades. Its not like he refuses to spend money. You want an example, just look at Landry. He was bought by Les and imagine us now if that had not happened.

This deal was to secure a back up point guard who can come in when Brooks struggles which has been very often lately. Bonzi played OK for the Rox, and honestly had more mediocre games then good ones. If Jackson does the same, then we win cuz we need more help at PG then at SG. As for Mike James, if you think he is talent then you are nuts especially at his salary. He may do ok down there, but he clearly wasnt going to do that here so it is great that we dumped him.

More importantly, it set us up for next year to be a bigger player at the deadline, not to mention we are not done dealing now that we have some extra space under the tax to possibly sign a veteran down the road.

 

The Rockets got a lot better.....the backup PG position is more important to this team than the backup SF/SG or wing position.

DD

 

http://blogs.chron.com/franblinebury/2008/02/bouncing_bonzi_and_the_jackson.html#comments

 

I guess if you're okay with Rafer playing 48 minutes a game in the playoffs, then yeah, the Rockets got worse.

Losing Wells improves the defense even more. So glad to not have to worry about him jacking up outside shots. I'm pretty sure playoff defenses will be clued in to the fact that he can make nothing but layups, and even that was spotty. Got to the line plenty, but only made half of the FTs.