The perception around the league is Morey isnt getting better among players. Lowballing other GMs and players will not help with players wanting to come here. Its sure has not brought any players here. The practice didnt work so obviously if it didnt work? Thats a drawback too.
Irrelevent....just because I did not want him, has nothing to do with this discussion. I am NOT the GM, I am NOT paid to run the team. It is not MY job we are talking about. I am glad you are having fun being an idiot and trying to turn the discussion on me, but it won't work, this is about Morey and his **** ups, not my opinions etc. Nice try terd. DD
Just because I'm interested, please direct me to the "perception around the league" info you have revealed in this startling post ! Seriously, is there some new poll or data we need to know on this "perception around the league"? We're sunk if the players don't like our GM! Oh the anguish.
Do you honestly think that Gortat would have this franchise in a much better position than they currently are? And if not, what moves do you think Morey should have made that would have really had us in a much better position right now? Not saying you are right or wrong I'm just curious to know what people think Morey could have done to make things much better.
Like what, a mud wrestling contest?....revolvers at 20 paces.... a twist contest ?.....lol Do something man, do something!
Of course what we would or could do is totally fantasy, but yes, he has a year left, and yes...HE HAS A YEAR LEFT!!! let's all agree to meet one year from now in this exact same spot and see if the Rooster crow's or we get speckled eggs! yeah that's the ticket... (just amusing myself as this season comes to a slow fizzle..O)
The point is not what I think, or do, the point is that Morey is the guy on trial here, his record speaks for itself. What I think is that Morey will ultimately get frustrated with Les and leave at the end of his contract with is reputation intact because he has deniability by working for Les. Morey has come out in public and said "Mr. Alexander wants to stay competitive"...then acknowledges that the best way to get better is to get bad first....that is giving him an out for not being able to do the job that Les is asking him to do.... Honestly, it is an untennable job, IMO, and I also think that Morey knows that, and is just using this as a stepping stone for a gig that will actually LET him do the job he thinks he should do.... This is his first GM job, Les changed Morey's lifestyle and career path with this job....good for DM..... I would GUESS that he leaves after this next year because his contract is up, and he knows that what Les is asking him to do is really unlikely, and someone else will snap him up as GM because he is a pretty good one. Now, that being said, I still think he should be held accountable for his missteps......and play it safe drafting strategy. I still give him a B- overall.....but if you factor in Les, he probably should get a B+ And I don't want him fired, for the record. DD
Nah, I am relilient, people always try to make it about me, when it is a discussion about Morey. If I was being paid to be the GM, and was expected to deliver, then we could have this discussion, but I don't have the data and info or access to practices and scouts that Senior Morey does. DD
That kinda is the point though. If you think Morey has made missteps you should be able to point them out. What part of his record do you think speaks for itself? You giving examples of what you think are mad moves on his part that has really hurt this team's future is not making it about you at all.
Battier for Gay the worst Landry for Martin starting to become bad Ariza signing and letting Artest win in LA Trading away Tmac too late Drafting in the 14th slot every year instead of trying to get a higher draft pick First round misses Patterson who everyone does not like Morris who has played more Dleague so far than NBA games Missing out on Gasol deal whether his fault or not Trading Battier for bust Thabeet Trading away 1st round pick for Terence Williams Nicholas Batum Jeremy Lin and a partridge in a pear treeeeeeeeeeee........
Johnny Flynn Joey Dorsey Signing Brad Miller Morey mistakes part 3: huhhhmp. I got to take a breath now. Ok. Not tanking by trading away Scola or Martin at their highest value not getting the best possible draft picks in a deep draft so far missing 3 years of playoffs while trying to compete 500 for 3 years straight 15th pick average for 3 years straight 9th place for 3 years straight inability to lure free agents or make trades for list following although the value is not included just what he failed to get done when he tried: Amare Bosh Carmelo Gasol(already included above) Dwight Gortat
I think he has made several. Terrance Williams was the worst - giving up a first round pick for him and then not playing him every game and seeing what he could become. I think letting Lin go when you knew that Flynn was going to be gone at the trade deadline anyway was a bad move. I think drafting undersized PFs all the time is not a great move. I think the Nene chase was a bad move I think the Gasol trade was ok, but now that we have seen what Dragic can do, would have been a bad move. I think signing Ariza was a bad move. Morris - looks like a bad move but it is far too early.... And the NUMBER 1 worst move - hiring a failed coach in McHale.... DD
When gortat started for howard,he was a double-double. Double double for a 7ft and offer him 4m doesn't make sense. In case you didn't do ur research, they gave the injury exception to ariza that year and didn't even use the mle.
Can you make your team the best team? no, the 8th best team? ...in the west ...in any single season of the last 3 years? If you could not do that, how can your work be named anything remotely related to being good?
1. Battier wasn't him 2. Meh and part of Martin being a bia has to done with Stern 3. He ended up getting Lee for Ariza who I'd rather have than Artest 4. Les is on record saying that he didn't want to trade TMac but Morey can share the blame none the less since he was the GM 5. Didn't he try to trade up? 6. Still don't know enough about Morris to come to a conclusion 7. Really? Missing out on the Gasol deal that he made only to have rejected 8. Battier was leaving regardless but he could have got more value 9. TWill trade was just flat out awful 10. Sigh 11. Gasol fallout plus Lowry and Dragic are better Overall I'd say the TWill and Batum moves are the only ones I look back on and think I really wish those deals hadn't went through. Oh and I remember really wanting to trade TMac to the Pistons for some combo of Billups/Prince/Rip in the summer of 08.
Signing Gortart or not was not the point of the discussion. The point here is that Morey's evaluation of what Gortart was not even close to market value, an error in judgement on his part if he was really serious about getting a true center.
