The thing is trading for Amare DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. We don't need to upgrade at power forward position. We'd better look for some help at PG.
b Obviously, my seriousness in my comment is in question LOL I personally dont find much sense in the trade at this point, nor do i think it will happen, i just want SOMETHING to happen. I dont wanna lose Artest at the end of the season for NOTHING! And if the only offer on the board on Thursday is this deal, I would do it. At least it gives you options as far as trading Amare in the future if it doesnt work.
if you trade for amare you might as well trade yao off the team. people who think amare is the perfect fit for playing next to yao need their heads examined. i bet those are the same people who said that artest would be the perfect fit for the rockets last offseason... man, just think about it in an objective way. the facts: - the suns aren't happy with amare's defense - the suns aren't happy with amare's production next to a real post presence - amare isn't happy because he has to share the post with shaq - amare isn't happy because their offense isn't focused on him like it once was yeah, i'm pretty sure amare would be the perfect fit next to a much better post presence on a team that's already looking for a consistent defensive effort and wants to establish a team-orientated half-court motion offense. amare to the rockets would only work out well if the rockets want to build the team around him. that means trading yao and probably mcgrady and saying good bye to your defensive-oriented identity would be morey's next step then. i hope (and am pretty sure) morey's smarter than that. if you want to make a trade that builds your chemistry up while also fixing a lot of your offensive problems you try to trade for mike miller (for example). you'll probably end up with a little less talent but we've all seen what you'll get if you're relying on just being more talented than other teams...
I am not sure he would be a good fit. I say 50/50 simply by how it's been working out with Shaq/Amare. On top of that, Amare has always wanted to be the top dog without having the skills to be the #1 guy on a team. However, if he accepts his role our frontcourt would be an offensive powerhouse. Rebounding/defending not so much but the offensive gain could potentially overcome that.
if we trade tmac then he wont be a third option. even with tmac he shouldnt be the third option. it should be yao, amare, then whoever steps up.
It absolutely makes sense. It improves the team. Amare is the absolute perfect power forward to play along side Yao. He has as good or better mid range game than any other power forward in the game. When Yao goes out of the game Amare would move to the 5 spot and Scola would play the 4 spot. Yao would still play many minutes with Scola. The opposing team simply would not be given any break at all during the whole game from our front court players. Our C/PF combos would be: Yao / Amare - devistating Amare / Scola - Still devistating Yao / Scola - Damn Good! Twin Towers part 2.
Amare wil definately kill our chemistry... he wants to be the man but he is not good enough. Don't think he wants to be 2nd to Yao : <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JUQ9CPdl5bw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JUQ9CPdl5bw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
not sure if this has been posted or deserved it's own thread http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/02/15/what-does-moneyball-think-of-amare/
I don't, but I still think we should do the trade. The Rockets have half a season to evaluate him, how he fits in with Yao. And then if they wish, trade him in the off season. Think of who we can get for a player of his caliber.
I do think Yao is the only big man Amare can play along with. one is stat,the other one is want none stat.
Amare won't fit in here. One of the main reasons Phoenix wants Stoudemire out is because he doesn't mesh well with Shaq. What is Shaq's playstyle? Low post, ready to dunk it. What is Yao's playstyle? Low post, ready to take it in. Athough Amare will fit better with Yao than with Shaq, I still don't think Stoudemire will fit in here.
i agree. the truth is none of us knows if he'd fit for sure. we're all guessing here. why not take a chance? he's a bigger talent than ron or landry. if it doesn't work, we'd have bigger trading chips anyway.
Amare would be a great fit here. Teams can currently leave Scola or Landry open and you can't do that with Amare. His midrange is automatic and he can create his own shot. Our other PF's can't. They have decent mid range games and can finish around the rim. And neither one is a great defender, so we really don't lose that much IMO...especially since the one we would probably ship out would be Landry. Landry is one yr younger than Amare IIRC, and I honestly don't see him ever becoming better than what Amare is right now. FYI, Yao and Shaq are two completely different players....
The problem with Amare isn't whether his game fits with the Rockets. It's whether his attitude fits. TMac and Artest are high maintenance guys. Now we are trading one for another. And looks like we need to throw away more than half of our depth to get him. I'd pass.
With T-mac we HAD a go to guy, the knew how to run the offense, get others involed, and score at the same time. ARTEST, VInce, AMARe, nor MILLER have that special ability! Now the only thing we have is YAO Ming to go to and produce and offense and everyone feeds off of that. I kinda like the idea of that, only if we can have ppl that can knock down that open shot. Battie and alston are really laggy this year, and they havent done much. If we run everything thru YAO, i think the guys in the likes of AMare and Miller. or even Vince can flourish if they do that, thus makin it easy for the rest of the guys to play good to. WE just need a jolt, cuz we have the talent to go out there and compete day in and day out! Gett er done MOREY!..NO ARTeST TRADE, get TWAC outta here!