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Do you take people less seriously if they don't use basic grammar...?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Franchise3, May 1, 2009.

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  1. Yes

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  1. Coach AI

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    Not really. It depends on how bad it is. This is just an Internet message board, after all.

    Still, I think at some point - when it is really, really mangled and clearly not just a case of 'spell checking' - I admit it probably does reflect badly.

    I have never understood the 'no I'm just being lazy' excuse, though. I would imagine writing/typing coherently is like a reflex action. It shouldn't be hard work.

    A few misspellings or grammar errors, sure. We all do that. But I'm not sure the ability to communicate is something that just turns on and off.
     
  2. Butterfingers

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    This is true.

    Another thing for people to avoid in interviews are the overuse of the word 'like' and using 'um' too much.

    And wow TJ, I'm impressed. Whenever you're not trolling you actually make good, smart, and true responses.
     
  3. TheBigAristotle

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    Definitely and it's not just for job-related interiews or activities. It just signals general incompetence period.
     
  4. RHostetler82

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    Holy f'in hell river. Punctuate properly, punctuate properly man.

    How can you write like that?
     
  5. VesceySux

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    +1

    Sorry, RR, but there's no such thing as lazy writing on this forum. There's only writing (I refuse to call it "good writing" since it SHOULD just be the status quo) and bad writing.
     
  6. Hmm

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    i don't see why this being so generally applied to every person that has made the reference.. that the remark soley rests on a matter of "laziness" or "ease" in level of effort or difficulty.. when it's so clear to see that the posting styles that deviate from proper grammar.. and structure.. really take no more or less effort, attention and intellectual invest.. in the technical execution of it's writing.. than a grammatically exemplary one..

    the only value that truly differentiates the quality of one post from another.. is the mind and thought capacity of the poster behind it.. whether it's substantial in intelligence.. or merely inane..

    frankly.. i find this whole anal-retentive, rigid enwounding exhibition of superciliousness towards the manner one chooses to textually express themselves on an internet forum.. laughably demonstrative of the truly feeble intellect.. and an absence of personality..

    talk about ignorance of the most basic concept of context..
     
  7. Deckard

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    Hey, it's his style. At least he has one.
     
  8. Honey Bear

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    Typing like a stoned hippie and extrapolating a one sentence statement into 13 lines of superfluous rambling is known as "style"? No, I don't take Rocket River seriously, and would never hire him to work for me unless it's warehouse security.

    I think it's important to differentiate between telling a teenage kid to be unique and test the boundaries of where he lies and listening to a fully grown adult "beat the system". The truly productive individuals are capable of expressing themselves efficiently within a system, not trying to go around it because they can't succeed within a framework.
     
  9. Northside Storm

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    what is up with this kerfuffle :confused:

    good grammar on the internet is overrrrrrrrated
     
  10. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Good points.

    This extends to speech as well. I would never hire someone who can't pronounce words properly and articulate concepts without sounding like a clown. It's just bad business. Youth who dress, talk, and write like clowns are only harming themselves by doing so. We really shouldn't applaud people for behaving this way, and it's a total joke to call it artistic expression.
     
  11. Honey Bear

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    I hope this post was written in a satiric fashion... I think good grammar and punctuation wherever you go is what separates the people who are passionate about what they do from the people who just go to work for the heck of it and are lost in life. It's what separates those who pursue excellence from those who revel in mediocrity. It's what separates the burn-out stoners from the neuro-surgeons who smoke a little in the evenings and still get work done.
     
  12. JeopardE

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    There is plenty of content on the Internet, and I don't have time to read it all. I am naturally inclined to look for value in what I read, and if I don't acquire any value in what I've read then I feel I've wasted my time. People who write properly are also more likely to have quality content in what they write. Like I said earlier, it's not even a conscious decision. I am naturally attracted to well written articles and I will naturally skim right over the ones that look illiterate. I don't have time to waste on junk. Yes, there are poor quality posts that have quality content, much like jewels on pig's snouts.
     
  13. Deckard

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    What do you have against stoned hippies? Are you a replicant??

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  14. Space Ghost

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    Rocket River is a great example of this thread. As 99'er and he has steadily been posting through the years. Even after 18000 posts, I still know nothing about him.... I don't take him seriously because I simply can not understand half of what he says. Im not trying to insult his intelligence, but after reading one of his posts, I can totally empathize with someone who has dyslexia. There is the other side, the poster who tries to use obscure words (they like to call them 'big words') to sound intelligent.
     
  15. Northside Storm

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    Are you seriously going through forums looking for "value"? :confused:

    I go through anonymous forums for a good laugh and a couple of interesting points, kinda like a running conversation with a couple thousand people.

    I go through journals if I want "quality" content. Seriously, what kind of value could you be looking for?
     
  16. Hmm

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    as there are well presented posts that harbor no substantial thought whatsoever to share.. much like a dressed up vacuous simpleton..
     
  17. what

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    In terms of punctuation, this post is pretty good. But this post has a lot of pronoun issues. Such as: Before who started? Which guy? Started what? -- a new position, a project. Good at what? You could have said the kid was a hard worker and very responsible instead of dangling an adjective out there without any apparent resolution.

    Content is the most important issue to actual readers. Grammar is more of a snobbery type thing mostly.
     
  18. Classic

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    His statments are always made in the same manner. You probably just happen to disagree with his perspective on the opinon being presented. ;)

    Lazy typing? Yeah, I judge. But I only judge the handle. It is not like anybody can honestly say they couldn't have an intellegent conversation with the person who is behind the handle or even be friends with the guy. I like to read well formulated sentences. It just makes the thought more easy to comprehend because I grew up reading properly formulated sentences. It doesn't mean though that I have some sense of superiority at all. It just makes me think, "damn, that guy sucks at typing common english."
     
  19. arkoe

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    I take people less seriously that post their entire messages in italics.
     
  20. Franchise3

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    But there is a poll at the top of this page that says ~75% of readers take grammar/spelling/punctuation into account. Are ~75% of ClutchFans members not "actual readers" because they think basic grammar matters? Or are they just snobs?
     

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