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Do you regret trading away Trevor Ariza?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by G-Money, Nov 17, 2010.

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Do you regret trading away Ariza?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. GreatOne1978

    GreatOne1978 Member

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    should've kept Ariza. This adds to the list of dumb moves by the incompetent Morey.
     
  2. mlwoo

    mlwoo Contributing Member

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    Of course. I have been saying this since the day it happened. It was a purely money-based trade that they tried to put a bow on.

    Don't piss on my le and tell me it's raining.

    Trevor would be starting, and if he played anything like he did after the Martin trade last year, we would be winning a lot more than we are now.
     
  3. mlwoo

    mlwoo Contributing Member

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    DD sure isn't as loud as he was about this topic a couple months ago. ;)
     
  4. choujie

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    Lee so far has single handedly lost 2 games for Rockets.

    Missed 2 critical FTs to let Spurs tied the game at the end.

    2 points, 3 fouls, 4 TOs, played no defense in the game against Bulls. Bulls made 2 huge runs as soon as Lee stepped on the floor.

    I can't see how Lee was labeled " a great defender with high basketball IQ" at the time the trade was made. So far he looks like the opposite, worst basketball IQ on Rockets, played defense on the same level of AB.

    On the other hand, Ariza left Rocekts with a triple double, something I can't see anybody on this Rocket team is able to do anymore. His versatality is missed on this team.
     
  5. trueroxfan

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    i only have one regret, trading away boki!
    maybe two, we should have replaced dekes knee and brought him back out of retirement


    jp yah i regret it lee looks lost, he played well with howard maybe he just needs more yao
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    It was a salary dump that I was never on board with.
     
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  7. Don FakeFan

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    Ariza's millions of $$$ has to come out of Les' pocket. If he does not want to pay him, you can do nothing about it unless you can donate that amount of money.

    You regret that you have a cheap owner rather than the trade.

    I doubt Morey did that trade from his heart. It was all Les.

    No regrets here, but one thing I don't understand:
    How come some fans STILL think that was a good trade for the team?
     
  8. RocketsPimp

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    The team was going nowhere with Ariza. We weren't as good as our record indicated with him tied up for so long. I think it was the first in a series of transactions to change the face of the team (ie. transition away from Yao). Having that much money tied up in a player that doesn't keep us in competition for the playoffs doesn't make sense.
     
  9. Don FakeFan

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    You are making sense if we did not sign Lowry's contract or Miller's contract.

    Having that much money tied up in two one-dimension backup players (Lowry and Miller) that doesn't keep us in competition for the playoffs doesn't make sense, either.

    Also, Ariza is a frigging 4th or 5th option on the team, his role and his MLE won't kill a franchise rebuilding or contending.
     
  10. RocketsPimp

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    We needed a backup center badly and Miller fits that role perfectly. Plus when (not if since it's already happened) Yao goes down, Miller can step in to help out. You talk of Miller being one dimensional, but Yao is pretty one dimensional too.

    Lowry was signed as protection against AB leaving or getting traded. Frankly I see AB asking for more than the $6 million/year that we're paying Lowry, so it's not a bad deal. He's more of a PG than AB and is alot more physical. He's just overpaid as a backup and it sucks that he is out of shape.

    As for Ariza being a 4th or 5th option, who would be in front of him as options on this team?? Scola, Martin, then who? How long will it take to acquire the talent for Ariza to be a 4th or 5th option? At least another year, if not longer. Trading Ariza was something the team had to do because we were stuck in the mud with him. I believe that taking a step back to regroup was the right thing to do in the long run.
     
  11. alethios

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    Maybe...I don't know...I'm not sure

    oh wait, those weren't options

    kind of sums of the indecisiveness of this current squad.
     
  12. Don FakeFan

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    I wholeheartedly support the rebuilding. However, how is Miller helpful to the rebuilding? How is Lowry in the Rockets future? Why do you sign Scola for that long contract? It did not make sense.
     
  13. albuster

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    It's done so no use crying over spilt milk. Besides, it will take more than Ariza to turn this season around so no harm there. Let's move on and wish the current team success.
     
  14. RocketsPimp

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    What doesn't make sense? Miller helps since we need someone to play center (real center) when Yao is out. His contract is just right. Lowry's was rather high I'll agree. Still, he is insurance if AB bolts or is traded. Hopefully he's not being fat and happy.

    Scola is the one I don't agree with. Sure he had to get paid, but I don't like euro's getting long term deals especially at 30. I understand he had to get paid, so I would not hesitate to trade him if we can land someone like Carmelo.
     
  15. napalm06

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    True dat. Not sure how this is 4 stars, but I guess Ariza's fan base will enjoy bringing this up repeatedly when we go on losing streaks.
     
  16. delta69er

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    No he was a decent player with an inflated contract that put us in a bad position besides I like lee
     
  17. Don FakeFan

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    cannot believe I have to waste so much words on such a simply thing.

    Why would you need Miller to play center while you have Hill? to win more in the rebuilding process? Hayes and Hill are enough at center position. They are as good as any center in terms of losing games. I would not sign Miller even at the minimum if I am rebuilding.

    Insurance at PG at that price? why do we need that expensive insurance if our goal is to lose games? Ish or any NBDL PG can be a perfect insurance.

    The Miller and Scola signings are showing that Rockets are not rebuilding.

    The Lowry signing did not make any sense from any point of the view unless Lowry can be traded for assets later this season.
     
  18. Hayesfan

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    I wonder if playing a year for the Nets is in his head. All that losing has to effect you as a player. In fact I wonder if all this losing isn't part of having players used to losing in the NBA.. Kevin, Jordan, Lee...

    At any rate... No I don't have any regrets as far as moving Ariza.
     
  19. BucMan55

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    Wow, by looking at who has posted in this thread in favor of the Ariza trade, I would gather just the opposite.
     
  20. davidxhz

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    Trevor Ariza FG 37.8% 3FG 33.3% FT 68.6% R 5.10 A 2.8 S1.90 TO1.5 averages 10. 7 a game, he is still what he is.

    this guy did not change. We don't need another subpar shooter on this team......

    though Lee is looking like trash out there, not making any positive impacts.... I don't know what is wrong with him.
     

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