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Do you really care about making playoffs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TriCkz, Mar 1, 2010.

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Do you really care about making playoffs?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. LifeisButaDream

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    Do you remember 94-95? now that's what i call fun.
     
  2. Codman

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    I know the Lakers' roster. What's your point?

    Are you saying they tanked to get Pau or to make the playoffs within the last couple of years? I hope not, because it's not accurate.

    If you're judging our talent versus theirs, of course it's obvious. It has nothing to do with making the playoffs though.

    If you're mentioning the Lakers because of your fear of our guys getting beat by them in the first round, should we make the playoffs, you're just thinking with a self-defeatist attitude.

    We don't have Kobe, Pau or Lamar, but that doesn't yield tanking or giving up.
     
  3. mikol13

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    R2k,

    I don't want to tank. Is that the question? I would absolutely welcome the playoffs. I just won't be entirely disappointed if we don't as long as, the team is improving and gives effort. Sorry but no Yao means no win this year. As far as experience is concerned, we have it. Yao out of the first round last year along with Scola, Brooks, Battier and so on. Ariza, championship. So I'm no overly concerned with that aspect of your argument. Does it help the more experience you have, yeah probably. But there are plenty of people who had a ton of experience that didn't win a title, Stockton, Barkley and how about All the experience McGrady had.

    Do I want to tank? Hell no. Win always but I just won't be disappointed due to our situation
     
  4. TheFreak

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    How many of those guys did they get by going to the lottery?

    Let's see,

    Fisher - no
    Bryant - no
    Artest - no
    Bynum - yes
    Gasol - no
    Odom - no
    bench - no

    Looks like one.
     
  5. LifeisButaDream

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    Now this guy smart.I hope Morey's this smart.I wonder what Toronto would give us for playoff experience. :p
     
  6. LifeisButaDream

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    I wonder how they got there best player?Maybe they Traded someone THEY DRAFTED. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Icehouse

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    I feel you and agree that it's an accomplishment, but how does that help the team in the longrun. Ok, so we creep into the playoffs and get outsed by a top seed (I don't see how our current roster can beat the Lakers, Nuggets or Mavs in a series). I don't believe the extra playoff experience and worse pick helps us anymore than the better pick will (a better asset). I don't see free agents wanting to come here based on us making the playoffs or not. If they choose to come, it will be based on our outlook next season, with a healthy Yao. I hear the argument about the young players needing postseason experience and I do agree with that, but almost everyone has playoff experience besides Chase (talking key rotation guys).

    I do believe a better pick > playoff experience via 1 round. A few slots can mean a lot (see Brandon Roy), and there is potential to win the lottery (we didn't have the worst record when we got Yao). I'm not saying tank but if we develop youngsters and don't make it I won't be upset.
     
  8. LabMouse

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    Lakers have lots of money, but Les does not and is no going spend like Lakers.

     
  9. JayGoogle

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    Guys you tank for franchise players. We have Yao, he's been our franchise player.

    Everything we've done has been built around him. Bringing in Tmac to sending him out of here. Everything swirls around the 7'6" Yao.

    Does another lottery pick help? Yes.

    But say we go to the playoffs, and give the 1st seed Lakers another fight for their life? WHAT DOES THAT SAY to any FAs? That tells them "That's a damn good team, they are just missing that one go-to guy..."
     
  10. TheFreak

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    And when was that person drafted?
     
  11. Yao4REAL

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    If ever i want Rockets to make it to the Playoffs is to spoil some team that thinks they're good....like the LA..or at least give them a hard time. But since we're not good enough without Yao...it really isn't much fun watching the team play and getting beat though. It's best to get a good lottery pick and save for next year.
     
  12. LifeisButaDream

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    When was Landry? You got to give talent to get talent.
     
  13. Icehouse

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    Fixed. The point isn't to necessarily have a high pick, but to have better assets to make moves with. The Lakers needed assets to acquire all of the above players, besides the older vets that are ring chasing!
     
  14. LifeisButaDream

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    Thank you.
     
  15. LabMouse

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    Lakers also want to overpay the bad players to collect trade assets because they have money. Les will never do the same thing like lakers, mavs. We already are lucky because we have Morey, otherwise, we just can not compete with them.

     
  16. JayGoogle

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    Landry was not a lottery pick.

    That's because Landry was playing like a lotto pick.

    The whole draft is a crapshoot, even if you get a top pick, nothing guarantees he's going to work out how you think he will.
     
  17. LifeisButaDream

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    Look how long we had to wait for Landry to be good enough to trade for someone like martin.Just think what Morey could do with a lottery pick.without having to what 3 years for that 2 rounder to raise its value.
     
  18. LifeisButaDream

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    Are you saying a player like Greg Monroe wouldn't make us a better team?I bet Toronto would love to have him.Its better then Bosh leaving them with nothing.Now how does one and done get you Monroe or Bosh?
     
  19. JayGoogle

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    You have to figure in that Bosh wants to come here first and foremost. Why would he want to come to a team that did not make the playoffs and his former team did? What if it is one and done but we took the Lakers to seven. That is a good showing of the talent we have on this team.
     
  20. LifeisButaDream

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    Then say goodbye to all that talent(AB Scola).Because of playoff experience we didn't have the assets(Lottery pick)for a sign n trade.Or do you think Bosh or someone else is going to leave 30mill on the table.
     

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