1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Do you care if pro football players use steroids/HGH?

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by SamFisher, Dec 5, 2012.

?

Do you care if NFL players use steroids/HGH

  1. Yes, it's illegal, unfair, cheating and they should be punished

    22 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. No, everybody else is probably doing it too so its really not cheating

    9 vote(s)
    20.5%
  3. No, they should be allowed to use them, they're adults it's a free country U-S-A!

    6 vote(s)
    13.6%
  4. Don't care enough to even care or not care.

    7 vote(s)
    15.9%
  1. PhiSlammaJamma

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 1999
    Messages:
    29,969
    Likes Received:
    8,053
    If Steroids were not a health risk, then I'd be ok with them being used, but as of right now its a form of poison. The players are killings themselves. I do think one day steroids will only be good for us, a healthy choice, and there will genetic tests that will identify health risk and the chance of addiction in each individual case, an that one day all humans will use them regularly, but we are not there yet. The idea that they enhance performance is irrelevant to me. What is relevant is how they destroy your body.
     
  2. ItsMyFault

    ItsMyFault Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2009
    Messages:
    15,646
    Likes Received:
    978
    I voted for the last option.

    Brian Cushing says "no" to this thread.
     
  3. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    61,925
    Likes Received:
    41,489
    But football itself is a tremendous health risk (mental, physical, etc). I just don't understand this reasoning.

    The Major cost benefit analysis makes more sense though the jury is still out.

    I just think the "say NO to drugs!" approach is more of a reaction brought on by societal pressures and conditioning and when contrasted with the brain and other injury aspect of football is inherently contradictory.
     
  4. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    61,925
    Likes Received:
    41,489
    But it's not so easy to draw those lines. What's more legitimate about Mark McGwire taking Androstenedione than Dianobol? Nothing IMO except that one was banned and one wasn't (yes i know he was taking more....but for the sake of argument... )

    I understand the respect for rule following for its own sake...but a guy willing to inject substance X to work harder, why do we ostracize him? Steroid guys work their asses off which is why they take them....in a puritanical sense isnt that something we should respect?
     
  5. Refman

    Refman Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2002
    Messages:
    13,674
    Likes Received:
    312
    Your concerns in this regard are very real and your outlook based on those concerns is very valid.

    This is a decision that is going to be made in many households.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    22,896
    Likes Received:
    12,698
    Because its saying to young adults that if you want to be the best, then you have to cheat and do dangerous things. Where do you draw the line? Its the same reason I hate the NBA and flopping. Its not something I want my kids to emulate.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,804
    Likes Received:
    3,709
    dangerous things, like tackle with your facemask slash helmelt?
     
  8. AdrenaLINe

    AdrenaLINe Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2012
    Messages:
    662
    Likes Received:
    17

    my 5 year old wanted to play just the flag football... I said no... because I know in 2 years they will put the helmet and pads on...

    and judging from what we are hearing from the ex players even if he dosent juice up, or get a significant injury... he is still at risk of getting things like Dementia at 50 like some of these ex footballers are suing the NFL for...''
     
  9. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    61,925
    Likes Received:
    41,489
    Sure there definitely is a cost benefit analysis here but it relies heavily on intangibles- I would guess overall that we'd probably be fine in a football free world on a net basis but hard to really say. I don't if the ideal steroid free NFL really is that much different from a steroid laden one (probably the one that exists today).

    It's harder to make the argument that there are major benefits to using steroids if you properly punish people for using. There's no reason to create a culture where you have to take those extra risks to participate.[/QUOTE]

    But doesn't that culture already exist in football? The whole thing is based on frenzied violence and pushing yourself past the limit, playing hurt etc.
     

Share This Page