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Do you believe Micheal Jackson mollested childreen?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Brando2101, Jul 7, 2009.

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Do you believe Michael Jackson mollested childreen?

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  1. Uprising

    Uprising Member

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    No kidding, I tune into some of the cable news stations hoping to hear what's happening in the world. guess I'll stick to the news on the internet.

    If you didn't like MJ before.....it's getting worse.
     
  2. Hmm

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    refering*

    that aside, have trouble navigating bolded text..? it's used to lend emphasis.. in this case.. to specify what I was directly responding to..
     
  3. Homey the Clown

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    People who judge Michael and compare him to normal people don't really know him. Often it is these people who throw the harshest criticisms at him. Michael was child like and very shy. He often preferred the company of children because they do not judge you or expect you to behave in a certain manner. He often said he did not wish to grow up and lived his natural adult life like that of a child so that he could relive the childhood that was taken away from him. Unfortunately greedy parents found that they could make millions off him by making up stories about his friendship with their children and a couple of them did. He paid out for the first case because he did not want to open up his privacy to the world, the second case went to trial and he was found not guilty of any of the charges against him. According the the US constitution he is an innocent man who is yet to be proven guilty in a court of law.
     
  4. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    Sam Cooke>>>>> Marvin Gaye and Stevie.
     
  5. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

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    Sam Cooke and Bill Withers
     
  6. HombreDeHierro

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    He was the way he WAS with children because he had his own childhood stolen from him. It's the same reason he had Neverland Ranch...it was an attempt (although failure) to regain his lost childhood. It's also said that he wasn't as comfortable around adults as he was with children.

    That being said, I still don't think it was right for his to have children sleep in his bed, but I know that he didn't do anything with them. He was just in a state of mind that led him to believe that he was just another kid himself.


    EFF YOU JOE JACKSON!!!
     
  7. BigM

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    I don't know if he did anything, the more I see of him I tend to believe he did not...

    I guess I'm in the minority in this thread, I think Thriller is leaps and bounds better than Off The Wall.

    As to the person who asked "since when do black people listen to The Beatles?" Eh, who listened to Michael Jackson anymore before 2 weeks ago?

    I'm a Michael fan but he had 2 great albums, 1 very good one, and some average ones. What he does have is some very rabid and nostalgic fans. He's probably the greatest performer of all time but musically he doesn't come close to The Beatles.
     
  8. rocketblaze

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    I wonder why he would have them sleeping in his bed, while he had a massive mansion with a bunch of rooms? just find it a little funny :D :D...
     
  9. right1

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    No, I don't think he molested children.
    No, I wouldn't let my children sleep in his bed.

    Yes, I showed my kids the Motown 25 Billie Jean video and a couple others, Brisbane-Human Nature '87 and this one- Bucharest-Man in the Mirror '87...incredible performer, very influential. I enjoy the music, but seeing the performance- the dancing, showmanship, energy, etc....this is what made him a star.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t55J6Op_5oE
     
  10. right1

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    That would be Bucharest, Romania 1992. sorry.
     
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It is a shame that the man can't have the time for his family, friends, and fans to pay their respects without some of you trying to drag the man down with unproven allegations and innuendo. In truth, if anyone deserves to be trashed here it's Joe Jackson for damaging Michael to the degree that he was unable to live a normal life.
     
  12. ferrari77

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    Wow, okay, sure.
     
  13. Tree-Mac

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    A liar right here.
     
  14. Hmm

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    sounds like you'd be one hell of a father..
     
  15. bloop

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    What baffles me is the selective outrage. If ppl were consistent, people who are "outraged" at Jackson would be equally "outraged" by Roman Polanski or Woody Allen. Yet Woody Allen is this "great" american treasure while Jackson is the scum of the universe. The same people who are "outraged" by OJ aren't similarly outraged by Claus von Bulow or Phil Spectre. Except unlike Bulow OJ wasn't ever convicted in a criminal court for his crime

    Let's face it. It's mainly old ass white dudes who are "outraged by this or that" and to many of them the outrage is the idea that some black man is "getting away with it."

    For the record I'm white. Do I think Jackson molested kids? Probably. Do I think all those lawsuits against him were motivated by money? Yes. I simply dont get the "outrage." The case was settled and the DA didn't prosecute. There have been literally millions of ppl who get away with crimes or have their cases dropped. IMO people who get worked up about Michael Jackson either way are heavily influenced by the media cycle.
     
  16. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    That would be because he never claimed to be purely musical though, right?

    It's not who he was. He had a terriffic voice. But that's not what he wanted. He wanted to be an artist who sings and dances. I'm not sure if you're saying he didn't create this breed (Justin Timberlake, Usher, etc), but I think there are a ton of artists who credit michael as their artistic influence today.

    More than all this, for me, he was a great guy who was extremely light-hearted. He was deeply affected by things that a lot of people don't care about and didn't have the strength to hold up. He helped so many people. He tried to reach out to so many people.

    The idea that he dedicated his life to helping children all over the world, and that he tried to break racial barriers but was a child molestor - that doesn't make sense to me one bit.

    He had his problems, absolutely, but nothing like what he's been accused of. He made so many people believe and there will be a huge number of artists who will now dedicate more of their lives to helping other people. That is tremendous.

    We never really knew him, but we knew what he did. What he did was his best to help a lot of people and it went a long way.

    If you are a celebrity and you love children, then that is what people will target you for. If you are a celebrity and you love guns, then you will be forever linked to guns. In this case, there was smoke, but it was a false alarm IMO.
     
  17. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Hi Hater.
     
  18. dandorotik

    dandorotik Member

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    You're only thinking national, though. Michael Jackson as a global superstar surpasses any of the people on that list except for Mr. McCartney.

    Put it this way, #1 best-selling album worldwide is Thriller with 100-105 million. #2 is Back in Black with 43 Million, and 3 is, I think, Dark Side of the Moon with like 42. There is no larger than a 2 million gap between any of the best-selling albums of all time except between #1 and #2, and that gap is close to 60 MILLION OR MORE. That's staggering. And that is not just from its sales back in the early 80s. This has been ongoing over the past 20-25 years. Those other artists have more recognition as "legends" due to their age. Michael Jackson and Prince will be up there with them as the years go by (and I like all those other artists more than MJ).
     
  19. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    No, I have trouble with obtuse, smarmy people like yourself. I understand that you may disagree with my opinion but to engage me on a discussion would work a lot better if you didn't come off as a prick.

    Oh and btw, since you are implying that you would love to be the next SwoLy (but without the smilies):

    re·fer
    Pronunciation: \ri-ˈfər\
    Function: verb
    Inflected Form(s): re·ferred; re·fer·ring
    Etymology: Middle English referren, from Anglo-French referer, referir, from Latin referre to bring back, report, refer, from re- + ferre to carry — more at bear
    Date: 14th century
    transitive verb
    1 a (1): to think of, regard, or classify within a general category or group (2): to explain in terms of a general cause b: to allot to a particular place, stage, or period c: to regard as coming from or located in a specific area
    2 a: to send or direct for treatment, aid, information, or decision <refer a patient to a specialist> <refer a bill back to a committee> b: to direct for testimony or guaranty as to character or ability
    intransitive verb
    1 a: to have relation or connection : relate b: to direct attention usually by clear and specific mention <no one referred to yesterday's quarrel>
    2: to have recourse : glance briefly <referred frequently to his notes while speaking

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refer

    Maybe next time you shouldn't be so overzealous in trying to play spelling police.
     
  20. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Uh no.
     

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