Every time threads like this come up the "black persecution analogy police" go bonkers arguing against statements nobody made. In the process, they reveal themselves to be simultaneously bereft of logic and quite bigoted. Sad and boring. The combination is wholly not worth anyone's time to debate anymore - the result is predictable.
Also, since you can't expect Clutch to be aware of every single post in every single thread, you should use the 'report' button to mark an offensive post.
I agree it is terrible what happened to Black/African people as a whole. There is no excuse for it. And since you know how terrible racism/discrimination can be I'm sure you are appalled by any racism or discrimination. So logically you are also upset about how the Homosexual community are discriminated against. Right? One of the most funny/sad things I heard about this subject was on the daily show. There was a black woman who said that it was terrible that here ancestors did not have the same rights as other people. And that is was great how she finally had the same rights as other humans. (and she used the rights to vote against gay marriage). John Oliver made the comment that it was amazing that the woman did not see the irony in this statement.
For the people who voted "I accept them for now". What does that mean? You accept them now because the society accepts them, but if that changes you will also change your opinion? Or does it mean something else?
If the writer doesn't imply, and the reader doesn't infer, an equivalence in the treatment and discrimination of the groups throughout our history, then the comparison is actually a good one. Many of the same arguments that occurred when inter-racial marriage was being fought for are being used in the debate over gay marriage. Whether to allow gays in the military has many similarities with the debate on integrating the military as well. Also, the struggle for equal rights for blacks in America is known within our society much more than other equal rights struggles and when making analogies, it often makes the most sense to refer to a well known example. Finally, bigotry and discrimination against blacks is considered much more taboo in modern society than any other type of discrimination, so if you're trying to make the point that certain comments about gays are offensive, making the comparison to blacks is the strongest and most effective one you can make. So really, nobody is comparing the struggles themselves, you are just inferring it. If you don't want to be insulted, then don't do that.
the black persecution analogy police are bothered by the condescension of the analogy being brought up every time someone discusses discrimination. its as if people imply that black have some unfair special protection.
Just re- read your posts and Madmax posts ( I know him he is an outstanding man and Christian)- looked for other Christian responses. I wasn't trying to go off on the posters. But that's exactly how I sounded and posted. (I am trying to get a free lunch from Madmax right now) Please forgive me, that was wrong. Apologies to JeopardE, Madmax
I think the problem here is two-fold. 1) People often struggle to accept comparisons as similarity rather than as identical references. 2) Certain groups with the black community like to lay sovereign claim to "human rights" struggles in this country. It's like they fear that if other groups get compared to them they will somehow lose prominence or power.
The most intelligent post in this thread. Instead of reading word-for-word and considering the actual substance of what was ridden, those such as RR have chosen to instead focus on this "What discrimination was worse" element instead of staying focused on the topic at hand. Neither form of discrimination is okay! Nitpick all you want but the main point doesn't change. My take is simple: it's a genetic issue. People are born this way. To me, challenging that notion is like saying a short person chooses to be short. Homosexuals deserve every right that any other human or straight couple is entitled to.
