what equality. again I ask, what advantage do black people gain in this world from black history month?
What advantage did white people get from segregated bathrooms? If anything they should make the lines shorter for black people. Now, I am not saying that black history month is the equivalent of segregation, but just because something doesn't produce an advantage, that doesn't mean it is equal. Remember, seperate but equal was a BAD idea. Picking out a single race and concentrating on it is a bad idea. Teach American history, and include all of the important contributions all of the time regardless of the race of the contributor.
This is kind of how I lean too...just teach history, and if part of that history is the struggle due to skin color, include it in the teachings. Ala George Washington Carver. DD
the idea that's ridiculous is this separation idea. in fact its the exact opposite. the point is to emphasize how black history in this country is interwoven with the overall history of this country.
Sorry to push my own thread but this is why I think we need to understand the difference between an equitable vs a just society. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=124968
StupidMoniker needs to pull himself up by the bootstraps and just try to ignore all the unfair advantages that blacks get in society, such as their own history month and formerly shorter bathroom lines. It will make him a stronger person if he succeeds despite these obstacles. I for one am rooting for him.
Didn't I say that there was not an advantage? When something is seperated it is not equal, I didn't come up with that one, the SCOTUS did. Black history has been seperated from American history, it is called black history month. Integrate black american history into the regular history curriculum alongside everyone elses contributions to American history.
so how is it separate. is there a separate class for black history. do kids stop learning other history during black history month? and again please stop with the silly analogies to segregation. other than some catch phrases, there is no way you can equate the two.
I guess we should stop letting kids out of school for Christmas break by some of you guys' logic. the christians are more equal.
How is it separate? The rest of American history is taught in chronological order over the course of the year, with no particular focus on race, just relating events as they occurred. Black American history is taught outside of that timeline (or was when I was in school and was the idea of black history month) focusing specifically on race. That is about as separate as you can get without forming a new class (which is not really feasible in the context of elementary school or with regard to black history month). I'l post what I want and you can post what you want, k'thanks. They have stopped calling it Christmas break, it is winter break now, precisely because it is not equal to have Christmas break.
Black history is not taught in a separate timeline. the month is too recognize the achievements of black americans. not have an entire class (which you already admit). you admit there is no separate class, you admit there is no advantage gained, which is in direct conflict with your segregation analogy, looks like you're just arguing to argue.
If they are still doing black history month, then it is. Black American history happened concurrently with the rest of American history. There was black history at the beginning, and there is black history now. During the month of January, some period of history is being discussed. During the month of February, the next period of history should be discussed. Instead (at least when I was in school) the class looks back to earlier discussed times, and forward to times that will be discussed later in the year, to highlight black history. They should be recognized along with everything else, according to when they happened. Discussion of Lincoln can happen at the same time as discussion of Frederick Douglass (for example). That makes more sense than talking about Lincoln in November and then talking about douglass (who was a contemporary of Lincoln) in February. I am arguing about what is right. Just because some imaginary criteria that you have set up have not been met, that doesn't make my argument meaningless.
If you are proud of your heritage or culture, and you want to celebrate it, fine. Go right ahead. Leave me out of it. It shouldn't be government supported and it shouldn't be imposed on other people of other cultures in any way. Hindus should not impose "Hindu month" on anybody. Nor should Jews.. Christians.... Whites, Latino, Asian, Blacks... women, men... gay, hetero, bi.. ..whatever.... No, there shouldn't be a "black history month". Nor should there be a "gay pride" parade.... or a "hispanic month".... or anything the likes... You wanna celebrate yourself or your people? Go ahead. Free country. Just keep it to yourselves.... ...and I will reciprocate. I won't impose any pride I have in myself or my people on you.
Where do some of you guys get off saying schools didn't focus on teaching black history in the past? I went to River Oaks in the 80's and there was a big focus on black history. Let's see....there was the report I did on Jackie Robinson in the 3rd grade. Hmm...me and this kid from Africa were assigned a project on Africa in the 5th grade. His mom got to make homemade African dishes for the class and everything. There were plenty of events like that at my schools (until I went to a black high school), so I would say the schools were very focused on the subject.
Yes - because this is a christian country and christmas also trancends religion at the same time. For someone like me, Christmas isn't a religious holiday. I'm not Christian, but I still go to Christmas parties and enjoy the time with my family and get and give Christmas presents.
