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Do we really need a Black History Month?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Feb 19, 2007.

  1. NewYorker

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    Except the gay pride parade is conducted by gays - and their is a parade for pretty much every minority group you can think of....so it's actually equal.

    But I agree, if there's going to be a Black History month, I want an Indian history month as well!
     
  2. ryan17wagner

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    Dot or feather? You have to be specific. Native American Day is Sept. 4
     
  3. ryan17wagner

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    Oooops, I'm sorry. It's celebrated every fourth Friday in September. There aren't many Indians here in Texas, but tons in California where the day is celebrated by more.


    http://www.nativeamericanday.com/
     
  4. CometsWin

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    What in the world? Every month could be European American history month in this country for it's not the history that's been ignored for hundreds of years. As others have already pointed out, we devote time to celebrate other heritages. You're just harping on black history month for some reason. Our history has been the antithesis of equality. Again, you're terrorizing the remedy for inequality by calling it the antithesis of equality. It's a remedy to the past we all recognize has been unfair and unequal.

    As someone pointed out, why don't you attack Christmas as a federal holiday? In your words, it's just a day to make Christians feel better about themselves. They even get the day off, mandated by law. Blacks don't get the month of February off. No government shutdowns, no loss in productivity, etc. Where is your outrage for this day? We're a nation of all religions, not just Christians. Why don't Hindus, Muslims, and Jews get federal holidays? We should devote time to recognize the contributions of other religious figures outside of Jesus Christ. Isn't not doing so completely antithesis to the notion of equality? The outrage! :)
     
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    its not some criteria I have set. by saying its unfair or equating it to segregation, you set up the criteria.
     
  6. NewYorker

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    Dot you racist! And not a day, a MONTH! We've made numerous contributions to American society and the civilization as a whole. And we're more marginalized and mocked in the media.

    I think August should be Indian History Month (and not Native American History Month). It's about time this country is educated about who the Indians really are.
     
  7. NewYorker

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    Why do only Blacks get a month? Why no one else? What about Latinos? Where's Hispanic history month? Huh? c'mon? What's your answer to that?
     
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    They got no real advantage. But sadly they did perceive they were getting an advantage which is part of the problem.
     
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    I don't recall using the word unfair, and I specifically said I was not equating it to segragation:
     
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    By the way, Women's History Month is almost over and I don't think I've seen a thread on it.
     
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    ...how is Black History Month recieving more publicity a BAD thing? Its a heritage month, and you guys are arguing that we should remove it because it gets more attention then other heritage months? Jesus, people wake up and smell the other UN/US heritage months (curious that there's a lack of complaint about them) and thier jealousy of Black History Month. :rolleyes:

    Basically, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And if you're trying to argue that Black History Month is a negative...events like Black History Month aren't competitions people , I find it somwhat ridiculous that some of you are trying to paint it as such to argue against it and label it as a negative. Oh, we don't want to offend women because black people's history month gets more publicity, blah blah di blah, you realize how weak that arguement is?

    And they say liberals are bleeding hearts. :/
     
  14. NewYorker

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    True equality goes both ways.

    All segreation should be eliminated. All discrimination. Now, if Blacks choose to create a black history month and lobby advertisers and tv stations and media - hey that's great.

    But the federal gov't should stay out. The gov't and school system should not be biased toward anyone. Not whites blacks women or whomever. Why? because the gov't should be blinded to the colar of a persons skin.

    All this stuff doesn't do anything but call out our differences. Affirmitive Action, special recognition by government agencies, etc. Now, should there be a section of the government that assures equality for all people? Yes. Aboslutely.

    I think we lose sight of that. How to demonstrate that race doesn't matter. That's what I'd like to see. A race doesn't matter month. Where contributions to various things show that stereotypes are useless. That music is made of up black, whites and hispanics. That math is Asians yes, but they are also Latinos. That a chinese guy can be great at basketball. That a black guy plays ice hockey. That a white person is one of the best rappers ever. Where's the Stereotypes are stupid month?

    But if you create a black history month, and it's sanctioned and supported financially by any institution of gov't or funded by the gov't, then it must be done for all or you don't have equality. And that's not possible - just look at what Title 9 did to school systems.

    So what to do - eliminate stereotypes and move not toward guarantee privledge but to guarantee fair market and competition.
     
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    Buh? Your argument makes sense when applied to things like affirmative action, but fair competition among heritage months? Mhmm. Yes, that's exactly what we need.
     
  16. NewYorker

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    Affirmative action isn't fair.

    Fair is the government being race blind.
     
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    Now if only the gouvernment were sex and poverty blind, then maybe ALL of society would have a clear level playing field, the very thing you're striving for.

    Even though, we all know who a "clear level playing field" favors, namely those who shape and craft the field.

    But that's neither here or there...arguing against heritage months because its "inequal" for other cultural groups and they'll be "hurt" because blacks get a month so why shouldn't they...blah. Probably the most PC thing I've ever heard. And that's coming from a guy that's just spun a hell of a lot of PC crap in this post.
     
  18. NewYorker

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    I don't think asking that the gov't not allocated taxpayer dollars to race-specific causes is being PC. In fact, opposing the gov't funding of Black History month if very much PI (politically incorrect).

    So what are you getting all bent out of shape about?
     
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    Nothing much, I just don't get what you have against black history month.

    Yeah, saving a couple of tax dollars is a bad reason to cancel Black History Month. Might as well go cancel every cultural event then on the basis of equality, since they cost too much :/

    ...how much does it cost to mount black history month every month anyways? Can't be more then a million otherwise SOMEONE is out there with a new Hummer.
     

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