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Do we overrate Daryl Morey?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by G-Money, Nov 10, 2010.

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Do we overrate Morey?

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  1. robbie380

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    He has done a great job considering how much he is limited by Les. He has done great making Les money, minimizing long term contract risk for Les, and putting out a solidly competitive product.

    People sometimes forget that Morey is Les' employee.
     
  2. heypartner

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    I know. I haven't read enough. Well, partly because -- you might remember -- I'm not all that interested in Roster Moves talk. But
    that's why I posted, because i'm trying to catch up with your take. and I've definitely read enough to know you aren't "knee-jerk," so excuse me if it came off that way.

    In a nutshell, you seem concerned that we are too attached to Yao, now that TMac didn't work out, and you don't see much opportunity on the horizon to fix it ... leading you to wonder about jettisoning Yao, which might be too late.

    The roster moves do seem to be slanted to appease the offense.
     
  3. heypartner

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    nice post ...

    About this part, isn't Morey on record saying he does believe in the big move, that he knows he must have a superstar. So, together with wanting to "hedge smaller moves" he does that to build equity, but also to remain nimble for purchasing the blue chip when it's available.

    right? I'm asking honestly ... he does want a franchise prized player, ultimately. I read here so much about how he's smart and frugal, but that's only because the big moves recently have been "corrupt" as you said. no one can really make one.

    btw: did you see that Onion article in the Dish ... "Nuggets owner announces they plan to move team to NYC for Carmelo." haha
     
  4. DaDakota

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    The issue is that in order to make a big move, you have to be able to convince said Superstar to come to Houston, and beat the other 31 teams in a trade package, usually making it fairly unpalatable.

    I don't think something like that is probable do you guys?

    DD
     
  5. roslolian

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    LOL Scola is playing at an all star level right now. Yao Ming and Kevin Martin were once all stars.

    WTF do you mean crippled roster? The only thing that's crippling this team is Yao Ming's limited minutes. LOL you're acting like we're rolling with Brian Cook and Sasha Vujacic out there smh.
     
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    Upgrading the team is his job. Everybody knows it, there's no point in trying to hide it. If he says he's goint to wait for Tmac to recover and then traded him for KM and the Knicks picks wouldn't it make him seem even more sneaky and underhanded?

    Regarding Brooks' contract I think it was already covered in Bimathug's new post. With Lowry it was a little high however prior to this year he has never had back spasms before. We also had no idea there was a lowry clone in this year's draft (aka Ish).
     
  7. heypartner

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    You keep saying this. They are indeed chips in trades, so to some degree everyone here views them as assets. But you're also saying he is taking it to an extreme to the point of pissing off the players and failing in Player Mgmt. right. Did I sum that up, correctly?

    And the obvious comparison is how everyone (the players and free agents) loved the CD/Rudy combo.

    But I contend you might be taking this a wee bit to an extreme...creating an artificial spectrum to place CD and Morey on polar opposites. It's an elegant way to describe it, and a simple way to discussion...and you're often good at that. I'm more of a person who wants to express the complexities of issues. (I guess I just placed us on a spectrum as illustration...haha).

    Anyhow, what's my point. Oh yeah, my point is CD and Rudy were very good at winning the trust of players, so they'd go to war for them. but almost to a fault, like promising pot-smoking, lazy ass Maurice Taylor a huge raise, if he'd sign on the cheap at first, and promising Shandon a starting position forever. And CD did not renege, because that would be bad for future negotiations; ie, he had to maintain future trust...never lie.

    So, far, Morey seems to not lie, either. Right? he didn't with Ariza...he simply traded him. So, I don't really see him breaking the Houston Rockets history of never lying to players. Did he? So in that regard, he's doing fine with Player Mgmt.
     
  8. redao

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    We are rolling with Hayes and Battier instead of Landry and Ariza.
    We have too many one way players, including Scola, Brooks and Martin.
    The we have Yao wasting $17M cap space.

    The 1:6 record says we are being Cooked.

    once all stars? irrelevant to present.
     
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    The Rockets are not ready to commit because their future is uncertain. Brooks has a greater chance to stick around if Yao is healthy and lesser if Yao's career is over.

    I don't think they share your opinion of Brooks being a superstar. If they did and the rumors true Morey wouldn't have tried to deal Brooks in the last three off-seasons.
     
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    I think they are looking for deals involving Brooks. Thats probaly why this large roster is being kept in case we make a deal for certain players this year.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    1. I did not say he was a superstar, just our only guy capable of creating a good shot for himself or others late in games.

    2. Morey has never tried to trade AB, not saying he won't but please refrain from making stuff up.

    DD
     
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    The answer to this question is UNKNOWN due to all the injuries and never being able to play together as a team for a whole season. If everyone was healthy and Yao was playing 33mpg then we would probably be giving all the Credit to Morey for putting this team together but sinse injuries happen then theres going to be those fans who say he sucks.
     
  13. Easy

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    How can you overrate god? :grin:

    Seriously, some people overrate him and some underrate him. He is not almighty. There are things that he cannot control. I think most decisions he has made so far have been correct decisions in terms of maximizing the chances for the team to become a contender.

    Every GM makes mistakes. Some make really stupid mistakes. Morey has not done anything that is clearly dumb. In terms of "hitting a home run" it is mostly not controlled by him. All he can do is preparing for the best chance. You have to wait for the right pitch.
     
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    To claim he "has never tried" is "making stuff up".

    2008. Brooks for Rush, rumor/speculation from Clutch.

    2009. Brooks + Battier for Rubio/top 3-4 PG in draft, various media rumors. Rubio deal most widely reported. Going after top 3-4 PG from Morey's own twitter iirc.

    2010. Brooks in package for 76ers/Kings pick, various media rumors. 76ers specific offer unverified but confirmed there was one by Morey on the table with Sixers pulling out.
     
  15. Braga

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    yes we do
     
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    miller was brought here because of adelman.. morey had to match the offer sheet lowry signed with the cavs, if he let him walk you would be crying about how it was a dumb move to let lowry walk.. hes built a damn good team, his only fault was relying on yao and tmac.. the 09 team was the closest the rockets have been to contending in a long long time..
     
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    Most overrated GM in NBA history. Probably the most overrated current citizen of Houston. The strange and bizarre fascination with Morey, an average GM at best, amongst the Houston Rockets fan base is truly weird.
     
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    It's a shame no one bumped this thread at the trade deadline.

    A lot of folks wouldn't be able to vote yes today.
     
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    a huge YES. sick to see morey this morey that and that pic.
     

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