Looks like you're on to something with Bortles. Scouts Inc has him as their #2 QB now. #8 Bridgewater #14 Bortles #20 Manziel
Do you watch the games? Yes, our O-Line could use some help but Case has had plenty of time to get rid of the ball, he just isnt great.
i watched Bortles game against South Carolina and was very unimpressed... now i am not a scout by any means but all his throws seemed to be screens or quick 5 yard passes where he didnt have to make a read. I get that was probably the game plan against that tough pass rush lead by Clowney (who i was also unimpressed with), but His throws looked sloppy, he never threw a spiral consistently, and he didnt seem to have much zip on the ball. Now this is all i have watched of him so i cant say i know everything, but he looks like a Matt Schaub type passer with a little more athleticism.
Top 5 teams in the last few years. Ready set........LIST Patriots-Brady Saints-Brees Broncos-Peyton Packers-Rodgers Giants-Eli Shall I go on?
There's no Brady, Brees, Manning or Rodgers in this draft, bro. If you want Eli so bad we can trade the 1st pick overall for him pretty easily.
Really? None of those guys. It is hard to tell isnt it considering Brady did go round 6 and Brees was awful his first two years. Haven't even gotten to Rogers who had potential but sat on the bench for his first couple years. You just never know.
Gotta draft a qb and it has to be teddy bridgewater. The team has to make the sexy pick this time around. No Mario Williams over VY, even though that was the right choice. The fan base is growing impatient, firing the coach was a start but to finish the problem they must select teddy bridgewater with the first pick. They need to send a message to the fans that they hear us and are drafting that franchise qb to lead the way. This team is a Russell Wilson and solid draft away from being a Seattle type team. McNair knows this and that's why I'm confident he's going to get the veteran coach and draft bridgewater with the number 1 pick. I think bridgewater has all the tools to be a Arron Rogers type of player, I really think we would be stupid not to draft him. I think he is the most cant miss qb prospect other then Luck in the last 5 years. He's bit the size although he does need to add some weight but he's a smart kid who has a laser arm and is very accurate putting the ball in small windows. He doesn't run much but like Rogers can escape tacklers out the pocket and beam one 30 yards down field and with the threats we have it would work great.
6th round pick Free agent signing Free agent signing 24th overall pick 1st pick in draft I don't think anybody here is saying the Texans don't need a QB. They're saying you may not need to use the #1 pick in the draft on one.
If you redo every single draft involving those QBs they all would go #1 every time! Brees and Brady are the only ones who didn't get drafted in the first round but thats because of bad scouting... If you're not drafting a QB #1 overall what position would you take? I mean honestly in a perfect world where I knew a player at any other position (LT, DE) would be a sure thing i would still hesitate taking them #1 overall simply because the NFL is all about QBs no matter what you think... We have the best defensive player the NFL has seen in 20 years and we are the worse team in the NFL just because we cant get a complete game from any QB we play!
See thats the thing! Even though Mario Williams was a better player than VY, VY improved his team more in his first 2 years than Mario ever did!
That's true. You could just rely on luck instead pick a scrub QB and hope he magically turns into the next Tom Brady. That seems like an excellent way to run a franchise.
Ppl who are making the case for Defense or a lineman are baffling me. The 2 most important positions on the football field are QB and HC. It trumps all. We can focus D and OL every round thereafter, QB is vital in the NFL and we must go QB 1st pick.
Or they could rely on luck to sign the next Brees. Rely on luck to sign the next Manning (hell, a few more years like this from Eli, and he will be cut). Rely on luck to draft a talented QB with a later pick and get the next Rodgers. Rely on luck and end up trading for the next Alex Smith (another blown #1 pick, but still a QB you can win with). The same "luck" could easily lead to them blowing the #1 pick, which happens about just as often as every non first pick star QB. When more undrafted players end up on NFL rosters than drafted ones, it's no longer "luck". Teams can find talent everywhere... They need to have the system/players in place to maximize/cultivate said talent. David Carr possibly ends up with a different career track on a different team. The Texans likely fail whichever pro bowl QB du jour if u put them on the 2002 Texans. The same "metrics" that may measure Bridgewater to be an all world QB also said that all those above franchise QB's were not worth the first pick (or even a first round) pick. With that many errors, there is no draft system that I trust to guarantee that whoever they pick is likely to develop into a star. I've already said that this team would suffer more from a blown QB pick than a blown other player pick (mainly because you end up wasting more years "hoping" that the bad QB will eventually figure it out).
They need to get the right QB, regardless of where they draft... They need to attempt to get the best player in the draft with the #1 overall pick.
Food for thought, and I skimmed the list, so this probably isn't 100% accurate, but since 1980 only one team has won a SB with a QB drafted outside rounds 1-3. In fact, the overwhelming majority were first round picks, and most of the dynasty teams had QBs drafted number one overall. I'm sure the Texans are aware of this, and I'd be stunned if they don't draft a QB in the first round.
Yes, they could. If a QB falls into their laps like those guys, great. It doesn't mean it's not a stupid thing to rely on. Agreed. That's why it's so important to give yourself the best opportunity to get a top QB. If you don't believe they should take a QB with the #1 pick, where do you think they should get one? What would your plan be? Look in free agency? Take one in the second round? The likelihood of doing that is a lot higher if they pick the QB they think will be the best rather than if they pick the QB they think will be the 4th or 5th best or whatever's available in round 2.
You obviously missed a point I made. You need a great qb to have consistent success in the playoffs. Doesn't matter where you draft them, it just matters that you find them.
This mentality is flawed. If a good QB isn't there you cant reach. Just because a team takes EJ Manuel or Blaine Gabbert early doesn't make those quarterbacks good. If Bridgewater isn't a surefire thing then it makes all the sense in the world to grab a player at another position. We do need a good QB... doesn't mean he's available in this draft. Not much we can do about it. He might be. I like Bridgewater. Have for awhile. Just not sure he's that good.
Kiper: Top Prospects by Position Quarterbacks 1. Derek Carr, Fresno St. 2. AJ McCarron, Alabama 3. Zach Mettenberger, LSU 4. Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois 5. Aaron Murray, Georgia 6. Stephen Morris, Miami (FL) 7. David Fales, San Jose St. 8. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech 9. Tom Savage, Pittsburgh 10. Tajh Boyd, Clemson 11. Keith Wenning, Ball St. 12. Garrett Gilbert, SMU 13. Jordan Lynch, No. Illinois 14. Kenny Guiton, Ohio St. Updates: Mettenberger was No. 1 here nearly a month ago but drops as he'll lose some ground during the evaluation process after his knee injury, It doesn't reflect his talent, but it's the reality of the draft process and how you have to line people up. The middle of the pack here is really going to be in flux. You could see a great deal of movement as we get a closer look. Top non-seniors 1. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville 2. *Marcus Mariota, Oregon 3. *Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M 4. *Brett Hundley, UCLA 5. Blake Bortles, Central Florida 6. Bryce Petty, Baylor 7. Braxton Miller, Ohio St. 8. Sean Mannion, Oregon St. Updates: Mariota has said he'll return to Oregon, but he remains here until he's no longer allowed to change his mind. I suspect, as everyone does, that Manziel will be in the draft. Hundley is the big question. He could certainly use the seasoning, but scarcity at the position could make it tempting.
