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Do we draft a QB in the first round?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Sydeffect, Nov 10, 2013.

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Should we draft a QB in the first round?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Remii

    Remii Member

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    And who said those guys are worth taking that high...??? And Marcus hasn't declared for the draft yet...
     
  2. The Real Shady

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    Looking at draft boards the grade dropoff is not that far for the QB's. Washington traded a lot for RGIII because there was such a drastic dropoff in talent from him to the next available.

    If Bridgewater was a Luck type prospect I would be with you but I don't think many teams see him that way.
     
  3. Remii

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    I agree with your statement about the QBs... Heck, Jimmy Garopollo may be the best of them all... But don't forget about Clowney. Many teams would probably be willing to trade up to get him...
     
  4. MadMax

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    I think if Bridgewater played at a school like Stanford, with the weapons that Luck had there, people might see it differently.

    Not saying he'd be as highly rated as Luck. Geez, the last QB to be as highly rated coming out of college as Luck was probably Elway.

    I'd take Bridgewater absolutely positively if I had a need at QB and he were available when I was drafting.
     
  5. The Real Shady

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    I could see that as well. Clowney does appear to be an elite prospect.

    I would be happy drafting him as well. I'm just not seeing teams willing to trade everything to move up for him. A team might fall in love with him though so you never really know.
     
  6. Remii

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    I don't believe the Texans will trade out of their pick though _ even though I believe they should. Teddy or Clowney will more than likely be a Texan next year... But Jacksonville is a team that would probably give whatever to get Teddy... They have a problem getting people in that stadium and they need a face for that organization.
     
  7. htownb4lla

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    Which is why you dont really go just on draft boards.

    Look at what that "drop off" equated too..

    It equated to Seattle getting a stud in Russell Wilson.
     
  8. sydmill

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    Food for thought then, 1-1 to jacksonville for their 1st, 2nd and 3rd or 2 4th round picks?
     
  9. ivenovember

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    Cleveland and St Louis would be logically trade targets as they have 2 1st round picks this year, so it would be easier to deal with them, but I'd love to get an extra 1st from JAX, that team is going nowhere.
    Luckily, in the NFL pick protection isn't a thing like the NBA.
     
  10. Remii

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    I totally forgot the Rams need a QB. If the Texans do get that #1 pick (and I think they will) _ they would be able to fill a lot of holes if they trade out of it and could probably still end up drafting a guy like Hundley...
     
  11. ivenovember

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    Yeah it really comes down to 2 questions:
    1. Is there a QB that is a can't miss talent that you would take #1 overall.
    2. Is there another playmaker at the top of the draft you must select (i.e. Clowney or someone else)


    Otherwise, trade down and collect picks.
     
  12. Remii

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    "NO" to your first question.

    But to the second question _ Clowney, Barr, and Mack are must have pass rushers the Texans could use... And the Texans could trade down to picks 5-7 to get either Barr or Mack... But that's just my opinion...

    We're going to have to wait until they get a coach in here before we can really start speculating... Rather they get an offensive minded or defensive minded guy may give us more to work with when it comes to the guessing game.
     
  13. Cannonball

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    Do the Rams need a QB? Bradford improved a lot last year and was having a Top 10 season statistically this year at the time he got injured. Is his injury that bad?
     
  14. J.R.

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...-down-james-franklin-rising-tajh-boyd-falling

    Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

    Boyd struggled against South Carolina on Saturday night. The senior signal-caller failed to throw a touchdown pass, and he turned the ball over three times (two interceptions, one fumble). He was under pressure throughout the game, but he could've avoided a few sacks with better pocket movement/awareness. He finished his career with an 0-4 record against Clemson's biggest rival.

    Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (injury)

    Mettenberger had a rough outing against Arkansas. Prior to leaving the game in the fourth quarter, he had only thrown for 156 yards and LSU was trailing the 3-8 Razorbacks. That's when a bad day got much worse for the LSU quarterback. Mettenberger's knee hyperextended after taking a hit, and he was forced to leave the contest. Fortunately for the Tigers, their backup quarterback engineered a late, game-winning drive to avoid the upset.

    Not a QB:

    Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA

    Barr had a dominant performance against USC on Saturday night. The Bruins' senior outside linebacker racked up five tackles, three tackles for loss, two sacks and a forced fumble. He was strong at the point of attack when the Trojans ran the ball at him, and he showed an explosive burst when they ran away from him. As a pass rusher, he creates pressure with his outside speed rush as well as a few nifty inside counter moves. He's a lock to be a top-10 pick in the upcoming draft.


    I think this QB class is incredibly overrated.
    Clowney seems like Mario Williams all over again.
    Not drafting a LT to play RT in the top five. (Didn't work so well for KC or Jacksonville.)
     
  15. Ziggy

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    ****, I'd take Mario Williams locked into a rookie contract. Sign me up. I agree, no elite QB's but definitely deeper than usual. Also, if Matt Barkley played at Fresno State this year and Derek Carr went somewhere else, Barkley would be a top 50 pick right now at worst.
     
  16. J.R.

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    Ha of course, many would.

    Just seems like you have those effort or motor questions there. No doubt will be a good player for you, like Mario was, but when it comes time for a new contract, are you gonna give him his $100+ mil?

    Watt? I don't think you have a problem or worry about paying him.
    Mario? Ehh...
     
  17. Dubious

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    The #1 way to influence the game outside of a preeminent QB is to pressure the other guy's QB.
    I haven't seen Barr play but he's sounding like a good way to go.

    1. Bridgewater
    2. Barr
    3. Clowney
    4. Mariota

    Assuming we have the #1 pick, the questions are really:
    How much will be offered for the pick, how far down would you have to go.
    How do you value Keenum against taking Bridgewater versus trading down (maybe 2 picks in the first round, #8 & 25).
     
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  18. justtxyank

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    Keenum is under 55% completion and it drops below 50% in the second half.

    He should be a non-factor in the draft decision making.
     
  19. J.R.

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    Marcus Mariota returning to Oregon.
     
  20. Aceshigh7

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    Keenum has played great. The team is beset with injuries (most notably at RB and LB) has basically quit in many regards. Very few QB's could succeed in the circumstances Keenum has found himself in.

    There is absolutely no need to draft a QB in the first round. Keenum has the tools. He just needs experience.

    Keenum currently has an 86.1 QB rating, higher than RGIII's 83.3 and Andrew Luck's 82.4.
     

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