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Do not need stretch 4 or 3 pt specialist

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CARoxNut, Jul 11, 2013.

  1. CARoxNut

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    I still don't understand why some people still want to add a 3 pt shooter. Last season, Rockets is already a prolific 3 pt shooting team. Harden, Garcia, Parsons can all shoot 3, and Lin will most likely improve his 3 pt %.
    The so call stretch 4 is a recent nba trend, and everyone think every team needs a stretch 4. Not so, it depends on the team make up. Case in point, McHale, the all time great PF, is not a stertch 4. Charlie Oakley, the all time tough PF, not a stretch 4.

    Howard will defense the paint and pull in his share of rebounds. Asik as back up C ( hope he is happy with the back up role ) can do the same for our second unit. These two should be able to take care our inside scoring punch as well.

    What we need a an offensive refine PF that can provide mid range scoring ( McHale as a player/coach? just kidding ), 12-15 ft from the basket. Not another 3 pt specialist or a stretch 4 shooting 3. Remember Jeff Van Gundy said on one of our national televised games," Houston Rockets only shot three types of ball, 3 pt, free throw and layup". So true, we lack mid range scoring.

    Thats why I say give DMo the chance to start with the first unit. He has the best polished moves 12-15 ft from the basket among our PF. Or trade for a similar type players.
     
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    We lack mid range shooting because its an inefficient shot and it doesn't fit our style, which is in and out. No inbetween.

    We need as many 3pt specialists as we can get.
     
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    Is that not what a stretch 4 is? A PF that can shoot from almost anywhere?

    We need one of those so that that Dwight can do whatever he wants in the post without our PF / our PF's defender clogging the lane.

    And what's wrong with a 3 ball, FT, and layups as the only way you score? The 2 pt jump shot is the worst shot in the game.
     
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    passing lanes will be much easierwith a 3 point threat for Howard without someone being able to help on him and get back to the shooter dh is not a very good passer
     
  5. CARoxNut

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    Because we did not have the personnel to do it, and the coach tailored the style to the talents we had. But it doesn't mean therefore we should forget about mid-range scoring forever.
    If DMo can establish his mid range presence, or add a player for the this role, we can be a total, more dynamic offensive juggernaut. Why not!??
     
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    We don't need a 4 that can shoot threes, but what you described as a PF with mid range scoring is exactly what a stretch 4 is. Since Dwight has no range, if we have another big who can't knock down a mid-range shot the spacing will be terrible and will clog up driving lanes for Harden, Lin, and Parsons.
     
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    I feel like the definition of "stretch 4" escapes OP. People in the GARM would not be calling for LMA if stretch 4 only meant a PF that could shoot the 3.
     
  8. CARoxNut

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    Call me old school, closer to the basket, higher the %. I always think 3 pt shot as second or third option, its always there. You always try to score inside or mid range first. Care to explain why 2pt jump shot is the worst shot?
     
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    Not totally true.

    Morey has stated that they feel the 3 pt shot is the most efficient shot and they stress getting open looks on threes as very important. Thats not to say that they dont want anyone taking midrange shots, PatPat's main weapon was that 15-18 foot shot.
     
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    just means someone who can shoot outside the the paint to me...

    ahemDMOahem
     
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    I'd like to see a strong PF in the likeness of a David West. Can hit a midrange shot, can post up, can rebound, can defend.
     
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    Kevin McHale was a stretch 4. He was the 2nd leading 3 point shooter behind Larry Bird on the Celtics from 1989 to 1991.
     
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    LOL, kids

    McHale was the *original* stretch 4.
     
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    LOL, what is the definition for stretch 4? guess for different people, different coaches mean different thing. My definition is a PF mainly occupy just inside or outside the 3 pt line, i.e. 15 - 24 ft from the basket.
     
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    I watched MaHale live on TV in the 80s. There was no 3 pt shots, and he very seldom took any outside shots. Go back and watch again and get educated.
     
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    Because more mid range shots will make our offense worse, not better.

    It is true that we don't need a stretch four, though. A mid range shooter could work, depending on what his other skills were.
     
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    Somehow, I don't remember Olajuwon having "clogged" paint problems with Otis Thorpe as his power forward.
     
  18. Williamson

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    What about with Charles Barkley as his power forward?

    OT didn't need the ball to be effective and when we had OT, we did not have Clyde Drexler constantly driving to the hole.
     
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    That's b/c you didn't have two guards whose strongest skill is attacking the basket.
     
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    Could you be any more insulting? :rolleyes:

    Carl Herrera just told you that he was second only to Bird in taking threes(I havent looked it up, but Herrera doesnt normally BS about stats) but that doesnt really matter....he was very capable of shooting(and making) anywhere from the paint to the three line, which by todays definition is indeed a "stretch 4".

    If you dispute that I call BS on your claims you watched them on tv in person.
     

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