Do y’all tankers think losers can just flip the switch and start winning when “ready?” Losing culture is not good for development.
I think we should lose, intentionally, up to the trade deadline. then deal Gordon and Wood. We are at 2 wins right now. There are 4 teams at 4 wins, 1 team at 6 and 1 team at 7. I believe we should do a “reverse tank”. Tank now, in the front half of the season. Create significant separation between us and the other teams, then use to 2nd half to develop and “play right”.
If we develop the current team we have, do we have enough talent to be a championship contender or win a ring over years? Or will we be be a mediocre team for years at best? Or do we need another superstar or stars from the draft or free agency?
Everyone saying “Oh noes, bad habits!!! We will ruin Green and Sengun!!”…is not watching the games. We are losing because our spacing is terrible. Nothing more or less.
new draftees are pie in the sky....look at jalen green... hes been a trash here, not worth tanking... the flashy highlights means nothing in nba in terms of winning....
Don't agree, I think it's both. I've watched every minute of every game this season. I'd argue that terrible spacing does ruin development, and definitely can lead to developing bad habits. A big part of development is exposure to a wide variety of in game situations, so that they can learn from it and learn what to do. Bad spacing is robbing the rookies of that. Just to use a simple example, how can you learn drive and kick (which is one of the most important things for a quick first step player like Jalen) if there are no shooters and passing lanes are clogged?
i salute your caution but i still believe rockets can win championship this year and last year also rings were possible...and it was a good year to go all in! and it has nothing to do with bulls game.... its nba any team has a plenty of talent its only a question who plays harder and smarter and a matter of luck if you will look at gsw they contenders now playing best basketball...couldnt even sneak into playoff last year
There is no question that they need more talent, in my opinion. This team growing together as is wouldn't be a contender.
When the goal is to give yourself the highest probability of winning a championship in the long term, you should embrace losing when it’s necessary. Houston completely controls its picks for the next 2 years. Losing and development are the 2 best resources we have right now…with losing being the immediate priority. As long as we aren’t damaging our young player development (I don’t think we are), it doesn’t matter what their stats are right now.
They can't do that out of the gate , it just ruins any value the veterans might have to sit them. By the time the trade deadline rolls around , you'll have your way as EG & House will be out the door opening up minutes for JC , Garuba & Sengun ..... Wouldn't hurt to trim some minutes off of Jalen Green either .... Besides shooting 27% from 3 he couldn't defend me and I'm on the wrong side of ..... Old.
If youre smart you can do that. Whats hilarious is we are sitting John Wall but some how sitting Theis or House hurts us? LMAO LOL Its stupid. I legit dont care what the vets do other than Gordon no vet should get more than 5 or ten minutes. Gordon is the only one who can realistically be traded for anything unless you count Wood in that. House's contract can expire. Wood can still get minutes and be traded other than that its really futuile and just all around stupid to think playing our vets raises their trade value so far to this point they have looked horrible. Let House go. You can keep Theis as a back up no one wants his ass contract. But right now we are sacrificing development for absolutely nothing. Its futile and a little insane.
I feel this is the cause (poor spacing) and the effect is poor offensive efficiency; Which leads to losses. Silas was running the most efficient offense (at the time) in Dallas. The main staple of that efficiency was pick and roll. Everything branched off of that play type. Mavs had 3-point shooters on the court to make it happen. Only recently has Armoni Brooks and Garrison Matthews have started hitting their 3's. It's true that Theis is not much of a threat hitting 3's; but Silas brought him in to help teach the young point guards (Porter/Green) how to PnR. Even though Porter and Green have struggled.....Theis scores high in this play type. Despite poor spacing. Theis Pick-n-Roll: [Roll Man] (21/22):...32.1% (freq)...1.26 (ppp)...73.8 NBA percentile [This Season] (20/21):...33.1% (freq)...1.13 (ppp)...51.7 NBA percentile (19/20):...27.5% (freq)...1.17 (ppp)...65.9 NBA percentile (18/19):...26.8% (freq)...1.30 (ppp)...86.1 NBA percentile Sengun (21/22):....17.4% (freq)...0.90 (ppp)...17.5 NBA percentile Wood (21/22):....14.3% (freq)...1.02 (ppp)...36.9 NBA percentile ___________________________ Pick-n-Roll: [ Ball Handler ] J Green:...31.7% (freq)...0.67 (ppp)...24.0 NBA percentile Porter Jr:..43.2% (freq)..0.64 (ppp)...17.9 NBA percentile Eric Gordon:...35.0% (freq)..0.93 (ppp)...69.3 NBA percentile [ for reference ] Cunningham:...31.9% (freq)...0.57 (ppp)...10.1 NBA percentile Suggs:..............31.9% (freq)...0.51 (ppp)....6.7 NBA percentile ______________________________ Cutter Theis (21/22):...13.0% (freq)...1.47 (ppp).....80.7 NBA percentile Sengun (21/22):..12.6% (freq)..1.00 (ppp)...13.5 NBA percentile Wood (21/22):....9.8% (freq).....1.27 (ppp)...53.7 NBA percentile ______________________________ Transition Kenyon:....21.6% (freq)...1.64 (ppp)...98.6 NBA percentile Tate..........19.4% (freq)...1.21 (ppp)...69.8 NBA percentile EGo..........10.2% (freq)...1.20 (ppp)...68.9 NBA percentile Theis..........7.6% (freq)...0.80 (ppp)...10.1 NBA percentile Sengun.......6.6% (freq)..0.55 (ppp).....3.2 NBA percentile ______________________________ Where Sengun does well and I wish I could combine the strengths of both Sengun and Theis together: Post Ups Sengun: 18.0% (freq)....0.90 (ppp)....50.7 NBA percentile Put Backs Sengun: 8.4% (freq).....1.29 (ppp).....76.2 NBA percentile Wood: 7.5% (freq)........1.30 (ppp).....79.0 NBA percentile Theis: 9.9% (freq)........1.08 (ppp).....52.9 NBA percentile Kenyon: 9.8% (freq).....1.00 (ppp).....42.4 NBA percentile Isolations Sengun: 9.6% (freq).....1.13 (ppp).....85.7 NBA percentile Wood:....13.7% (freq)...0.98 (ppp)....64.3 NBA percentile Green:....9.7% (freq)....0.79 (ppp).....28.6 NBA percentile ############################ Where chemistry is poorest is Porter and Green together. Green played better when Porter didn't play for a couple games. vs the Bulls: Jalen Green scored 11 points in 10 minutes in a game where Brooks and Matthews shot 50% each and House shot well from three. Porter scored 3 points in that 1st quarter, then better after Green exited the game. Porter finished with 14 points. Tate went 0-4 from 3. I keep saying Tate offers little to no spacing. He is a paint player that feels uncomfortable on the perimeter. Theis or no Theis on the court. Nathan Fogg just made a thread recently showing wide open 3's that just weren't being made in a previous game. Made 3's make all play types look good or better. We caught the Bulls off guard by playing small. Thats not to say the upcoming teams won't game plan for our small ball lineup.
ok I agree that we need to keep losing. I don't agree that we can win a lot of games if we tried lol. I don't agree with benching our rookies to lose when the most important thing (more important than tanking) is developing green and sengun.
Exactly that just sounds insane to me. BTW if we're that good with our rookies then we've rebuilt and why the hell are we tanking then. It just doesnt make any sense. I feel like the Rockets are the only team ever that doesnt understand how rebuilding works. I hope we get real lucky in the draft and get rid of all these vets. Im not in for another seaosn of crappy vets playing over rookies its just stupid. I dont care how long ive been a fan im out.
