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DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by motleydeflep6, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. Joe Joe

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    DMO isn't every RFA. DMO isn't worth a huge deal. Rockets are in basically a sweet spot financially that a million or 2 here or there doesn't matter at this point.

    Rockets will match any reasonable deal and the Rockets have more medical information about DMO than the other teams. Deals Rockets are offering have very little short and long term financial risk whether or not he has a back problem. A routine physical likely won't come close to the information Rockets have.

    No team can offer a reasonable deal or slight overpay that Rockets won't match....unless DMo has a ticking time bomb for a back. No team is going to significantly outbid the Rockets with the chance that Rockets don't match because back is really an issue. DMo is not worth that type of risk.

    I doubt the back is a significant risk even though past injury is one of the best indicators of future injury. I think Morey is leveraging perception in trying to get a cheap contract.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    There is no love, I do like the options he gives the coaching stff.

    I am critical of Harden he is our best player and my expectations are higher. Same for Morey, I expect a lot out of him this is his job to build the team.

    Nothing is flying over anyone's head, we all see this situation differently.

    Not sure why it bugs you so much, doesn't bother me.

    DD
     
  3. DaDakota

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    A very nice mature business perspective, well said sir, you said what I have been trying to say, but in a much more clear and concise manner.

    DD
     
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    I need more than two months of solid basketball to convince me that a player is that valuable.


    Oh and it does bother you, thus the reason why you are trying so hard to convince people his worth.
     
  5. Joe Joe

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    It was a limited time, but calling what he did just "solid" is misleading. He was on fire. Doubt he'll ever play that good again. For what the likely opportunity of near nothing, there really isn't a good reason to oppose keeping DMo. DMo could blow out his back in the first game and it isn't likely going to hurt the Rockets.
     
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    I mean, If we are willing to take injury risks on Gordon, Nene and Anderson... :)
     
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    So during that span was he averaging 30 points a game and around 10+ rebounds a game? If not I would not call it being on fire. He had some good games, a few decent ones and some bad games as well. Then it was down hill from that point on. So again it takes more than 2 months of solid basketball play to convince me he's the answer.
     
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    I wouldn't say that DMo taking the QO was viewed as the worst case scenario. Actually, just the opposite, it would be the best scenario for the Rockets.

    If the team didn't think DMo was worth the risk of the QO's amount and length, they wouldn't even give him the offer. They'd just let him walk, like they did Jones. If some team did give him an offer sheet, it would have to be higher than the QO and the Rockets would have to either match it or let him walk. The only other possibility for the Rockets would be to actively offer DMo a contract bigger than the QO. The fact that they haven't done that means they are hoping that DMo will sign the QO. That would be the best scenario for them.
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    Blah...so basically everything less than playing better than the best player is solid.
     
  10. heypartner

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    No, best case is $x + Team Option, where x = QO money... and DMo doesn't have a no-trade clause.

    And Morey has already offered him a 1 + 1. Both BJ and inside info here have said the Rockets have provided an offer...they are just still far apart. The QO was not close to best case. But Morey is getting closer to best case now ($x + TO, with trading privileges intact).

    Just because the QO was the worst case for DMo (even worse than getting no QO and going UFA), doesn't mean it is Best Case for Morey. Oh wait, that doesn't make sense that the QO is worst case for DMo...Minimum salary plus a Team Option 2nd yr is worst case. Or, even $QO plus a TO is worse than a QO.

    (So, did that logical conclusion in the last sentence which leads us back to the first sentence make my point wrt Best case for Morey?)
     
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    Is there any actual news?

    Is he going to sign? Go back to Europe? Retire?
     
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    and before Math/Logic whizzes jump in, technically, worst case for DMo is Minimum Salary + a TO with no pay for missed games, if he holds out longer. Then we apply that to more money up to the QO money + TO, to again illustrate that QO is not best case for Morey.

    QED
     
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    I guess DMo doesn't trust the FO anymore. Maybe the best thing for him is play in Europe and get his basketball conditioning back.
     
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    There simply isn't a market for DMo right now aside in Houston. Unfortunate turn of events.
     
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    So . . .. I am to understand that . . .. if the Rockets were not threatening to match . . . . .. some team would have given DMo 10~15 Mill a year?


    Rocket River
    I'm not buying it . . . .
     
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    He was not playing better than James Harden. Nowhere close so please cut that nonsense out.

    Bwhahaha now Harden was on fire.
     
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    I don't think he said that. Dmo was definitely our 2nd best player when Dwight was out during that chunk of games though.
     
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    Failing a physical after being traded might be a tiny sign all isn't rosy regarding his health.

    Hey I'm no dummy, I am a fan of a healthy DMo, and want that guy playing for the Rockets, not collecting a check from them sitting out with chronic back problems. Shoot, after the injury, there was even doubts he would even play Basketball again. He's at least earned another contract for 4.4 million, suck for him it isn't for the 60 million Contact he might have been anticipating. But 60 million might still be there next year if he proves himself.
     
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    I think htownballer's point was sound. DMo was very capable in multiple areas. That makes him very valuable and rare. I loved him. On fire though? Come on. DMo was an efficient post player that year, but he was never dumped the ball 3 straight possessions and delivered. Even TJones blew up for 30+ points a few times in his career. I don't think DMo ever has. That's not his role. He doesn't "catch fire". Harden won those games - he carried that team. DMo wasn't Harden's Pippen or something.

    Don't know how relevant it is, as I am of the camp that lacks confidence we're looking to sign 2014-15 DMo, more the shell of that player we saw last year. He's so desperate to get a multiyear deal as his value is at rock bottom, I'm thinking DMo is in my camp too, afraid to say.
     
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