What bad team would prefer the NOP pick than DMO? Name one. Philly? No. Hinkie has gone to the Morey school - there are no stars in the market- and is very well aware that a center can fetch you multiple first. He even got a near lottery one for Young. Utah? Kanter is trying to bail out, it would make him all that much more expendable and they would trade him easily. Evaluate and if DMO doesn't fit (he would perfectly) flip later Minny? They would LOVE to have DMO so they can trade away Pekovic Knicks? They desperately need good players who fit the triangle . DMO fits exceptionally well the triangle. Phill would be all over that. Detroit? They would love to take on DMO in case Monroe goes for greener pastures. He would fit next to Drummond. LAL? A team that wants to contend as fast as possible and take a shortcut? They would love to take a already productive young player so it will be easier to attract other FA than the empty roster they have right now. What team would prefer NOP than DMO?
Disagree. The Nop pick ceases to become an asset in this June. Unless someone hits the lottery. Not a good gamble with this draft. DMO on the other hand remains an asset for longer and centers are the position more in need in the whole league. There would be many teams that would line up to trade him in January or S+T in the summer if the original team prefers to flip him.
I'd love to draft Willie Cauley Stein with the 10th pick. Super defense. Athletic, can run the court in a high paced offense, can switch on anybody, dunks,rebounds steals. He'd be a great Dwight back up.
You are way too defensive of Morey if you think me pointing out that he hasn't been great at drafting in the late lottery is bashing him.
There's a reason when a future all star is picked that late it is made a big deal. Why? Becaue it happens very rarely. If you think there is a good chance to draft a star late in the lottery then I don't know what to tell you.
You can pick and choose the players that slipped and turned into talented players. Give me any pick 10 and over and I'll show you more nobodies than players who made it. Odds are is that Dmo will be the better choice for the typical 10-14th pick. Though the #10 is looking strong.
This poll suggests just shy of 6% of this board needs to put on one of these and go sit in the corner.
I'm not a super DMo fan, but how can anyone take an unknown pick as higher value... Unless the pick is guaranteed to be like a top 10 or better, even then, I still don't think you can guarantee it's going to be good player you pick, it's more like gambling. Also, I'm pretty sure this is going to be a weak draft class, iirc that's what I remember seeing on early reports. And if those reports are correct, there's less chance to have like some immediate impact player... Where DMo is producing decent numbers already. So unless rockets are rebuilding or waiting to develop talent, it's probably better to trade NOP pick if the value is right. Then again I'm also okay trading DMo, haha. I don't see him as the face of the franchise and while his offense is good, his rebounding and defense are usually lacking. Hopefully Rockets get a PG for one of their power forwards and find a way to re-sign Smith. I don't care if DMo/Jones is traded (just not both), whatever, I am a Rockets fan not a DOF... Haha. I do wish Jones value was higher, but that injury really screwed things.
DMO is more valuable to the Rockets than the Pelicans pick primarily because they want to win now. To a rebuilding trade partner? It is a toss up. Teams value the ability to pick who they want and DMO will be getting paid soon enough. My guess is that if the Rockets get Dragic it will cost them DMO with the Pelicans pick being dealt for a DMO replacement. DMO is fine starting at PF for the Rockets. I don't think he really makes the Rockets substantially better, but he is a crafty/smart defender and scorer. He no longer costs the team wins and isn't up and down like Jones. I do think DMO is replacble with players like Anderson, West, Patterson, Gibson and others. If you have Smith and Jones along with Howard, Harden and Dragic; you only needed a solid but unspectacular PF.
Tl;Dr, Obviously I picked DMo as higher value ^, I really don't see how you can choose a draft pick...
It's ironic that people would use the "How many late lottery picks become better than DMo" logic, when the same logic would apply to "How many DMos turn into 3rd team All-NBA that Dragic became." Or how likely is a pick in the 20s likely to turn into Jeff Green? Or how likely is a pick in the 20s likely to turn into Rajon Rondo? Or how likely is the Pelicans pick likely to turn into Omer Asik? If you simply judge value based on player's on-court ability, 90% of NBA trades would make no sense. DMo is in line to become a FA the same year the cap will explode. He's not a max player, but he will get an incredible offer on the FA market given the instant growth in cap room for all teams. A lottery pick will still be making $2mil in 2 years. You can use that money saved to sign a FA. Someone like, say, DMo.
I never said you have to be. For every Kawhi, Millsap, etc., there are 10 examples of guys that don't pan out. DMO, who isn't elite but very solid, is more valuable to the Rockets, who see themselves as a potential contender, than a late lottery pick at this moment. He's not untouchable, but given Dwight's uncertainty and the preference of having Smith come off the bench, DMo is somebody the Rockets probably would rather keep. Jones could start, I suppose, but he hasn't shown the two-way play that DMo has. If you trade DMo instead of the Pelicans pick, you're taking an immediate step back in the short term, which is risky given the Rockets small window, in my opinion.
DMo is a free agent after next year. A rebuilding team may very well prefer a lottery pick that they can control on a rookie scale for a long time.
This. If the question is, which has more trade value, then it's a legit question. If the question is, which helps the Rockets more, it's not even close. Unless, it's a top 2 pick, the pick will need at least one year, likely two or more, to get to DMo's level. Besides, I trust Morey drafting in the 2nd round than the 1st round.
And I also said if teams do their research. How PG and Kawahi slipped, is beyond me, but the Pacers and Spurs felt they got steals, and they did. You're right, we could end up with a dud. We could also end up with an all-star. DMo is never gonna average 26 and 11, so he's not going to be an all-star. I have no doubt he'll have an above average career, but at the same time, there are franchise cornerstones to be had. Its likely our pick will not be top 20 any time soon, so take the chance, gameble with your draft pick, move up or package it or whatever, and get Harden some talent around him. When Jones gets back into a rhythm, and with Smith on the team, a PF is expendable.
Yeah exactly. A team like the Lakers or Pelicans that has a young PF and is unlikely to compete in 2 years when DMo is gonna get a pay raise would probably take the pick.
