And exactly how has the "hatred" that´s come their way manifested itself? I understand they´ve been banned from radiostations (all?). Have their been public recordbreakings? General slander in the papers? I have to say that I agree with the dixie chicks in that I would be ashamed of having Georgie as my prez too. edit: oops, bad spelling
1. there's no ban...certain stations temporarily stopped playing their music. 2. no public record burnings that i'm aware of 3. their record sales have diminished the problem is they were incredulous when there was reaction here...when their albums stopped selling. they made this part of their act at that concert...and it hurt them. that's the free market at work.
Ok MadMax that doesn´t sound as bad as what I heard from some. Hurpmh... that´s a free market where a few players at the top have all the power (hence not very free) at work.
I have always felt that 99% of donations to charity and time spent doing community service is done for self-gratification or self-serving interests. Very seldom is it done out of pure altruism. This is one of the many reasons why my community involvement is minimal. If true and the Dixie Chicks were actually attempting to make a sizable donation to the Red Cross, how much of it was public image restoration versus actually wanting to help out the troops?
The red cross don´t give nothing to the troops! Right? They´re a peaceloving charity organization. They are not a trick to make the public sponsor a killing machine such as the U.S. miltary. Please tell me I´m right.
TJ - I urge you not to let the poor motivations of others stop you from helping out someone if you're genuinely moved to do so
Uh, they weren't outraged. They were at first surprised, then they were scared when the death threats started rolling in.
they were incredulous...their response sounded like people who were entitled to fan support regardless of what they say at the concerts their fans pay to see. death threats were ridiculous...those people should be dealt with.
uh...no...the consumers who stopped buying their albums and called into radio talk shows asking them to stop playing dixie chicks music ultimately had the power. when the consumers' position softened the radio stations started playing the music again. where are you from, Legendary?
Legendary makes me think that GreenVegan has a new name. There were a lot of consumers that complained (rightfully, IMHO) about the Dixie Calves. But I think Legendary's point is that ClearChannel picked up on it soon after??? They make the playlists and they took them out of many of their country stations, if I remember correctly. I could be wrong on this, though, since I like country music about as much as I like cleaning the toilet.
It wasn't evil Clear Channel who pulled their stuff from the radio. I get tired of people stating it as a First Amendment issue, because what does the 1st say? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press The government didn't tell the radio stations not to play their music, their listeners did. How is that censorship? That's the market at work. It was their stupid move of pissing off the country fans, who by nature are a most conservative lot. The radio stations responded to their audience and voila, the Dixie Chicks are toast. I think people will forgive them in time, but only if Maines can keep her fat trap shut. And as for the Red Cross passing up a donation from them, I strongly doubt it. They would use it to engender support for themselves, not just push it under the rug.
Well, this is what I mean. The Dixie chicks directed criticism towards the highest institution of power. This made them unpopular. Do you then not think that that institution of power has some little control over public opinion?? or do you believe I am way out of line. Say for instance that some Chineese artist critisized their communist regime, and then they stopped playing that artist on the radio and so on.. would YOU not instantly say that was the work of the chineese government?? I´m from Sweden by the way, and I´m a rocket fan since my cousin made me watch the 94 finals.
the administration exists at the pleasure of the voters. the administration can attempt to influence public opinion...but that is not a given. americans' feelings on the occupant of the White House change quite quickly... in this case, the public made its decision well before the administration ever responded. people in this country, at that point, strongly supported the war in iraq...even those who didn't weren't necessarily keen with a singer getting on stage at her concert and calling the president an embarassment. particularly when she does so overseas. glad you're a rocket fan!
But it's not a 1st amendment issue because the government is not in anyway directly telling radio stations not to play their music. As for your Chinese govt. example, their little secret police would've gone down to the radio station, disposed off the offending tapes and got the address of the offending artist. Then they would've dragged him off to prison, tortured him and got him to confess his treason. It would've been direct action by their govt using deadly force to enforce their will and ability to stamp out the offending song and artist. Did we do that idiot Maines? Of course not.
If true, who cares what they were trying to do? The champion of Corporate America on this board should have no problem with an individual, group, organization, company, or whatever donating money to restore or solidify their public image, or even more economical, tax write-offs. Happens all the time.
OK, read it again. Still family ain´t troops. I was not trying to offend you personaly, so I don´t see the need of an apology. Question: Don´t you find it weird that the red cross has to help people in the richest country in the world??
actually i didn't know what you meant. but now that i do...the red cross helps anyone affected by war or disaster...just because we're a wealthy nation doesn't mean we're not subject to those same events.
