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Disturbing statistics on Rockets losses this season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Nolocke, Jan 31, 2009.

  1. Nolocke

    Nolocke Member

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    Well so far Clutch is the only one that has come up with any numbers to back up anything they are saying. And the reason I only used losses is because that is where we need to improve on. After you analyze the losses then you can move on to the win column. It all boils down to having to many mouths to feed on this team and either Artest or T-mac need to leave.
     
  2. DtJohnKimbell

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    Well the big two was usually artest and yao so ima go out on a limb here and say we are significantly worse with tmac out there, it could be his amazing defense that is throwing us off, or his outstanding shooting percentage that messes us up, or just maybe its the fact that he runs into yao when he drives to hole, ohh wait he neither has nor does any of these three things, so ima guess that is why we suck with him out there
     
  3. DtJohnKimbell

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    This is pertaining to latest not earlier season games for me
     
  4. Blurr#7

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    Clutch's post pretty much sums it up, we have a higher winning % when all three are on the floor. All losses aren't as simple as you make them out to be. Quality of the opponent and game variables aren't included in your assesment.
    With all of them being out at some point or another it's just too small of a sample size.
     
  5. thacabbage

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    It's ok, I don't think stat comes until 11th grade anyway. You'll learn.
     
  6. Nolocke

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    Was that even necessary? At least come up with something better then that if you want to talk trash. At least I actually gave some numbers to work with. What the hell does your post do but try to knock down another forum member? That isn't going to help the Rockets i'm afraid. Now ditching either T-mac or to a lesser extent Ron, that would give up a lot of cash to get something decent in return and possibly get us closer to where we want to be.
     
  7. Yao4REAL

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    Notice that the BIG 3 in losses are when they played against good teams. This tells me that they want to play in BIG GAMES regardless if they're still injured.
     
  8. fmp087

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    From Clutch's assessment, it's pretty obvious we should go with Aaron in our starting lineup. Ever since Rafer came back and was inserted into the starting lineup, Aaron's game has gone downhill every since.

    I just think Adelman is being overly patient, which is understandable because we haven't had enough time to build up our chemistry. But he has to understand what works and what doesn't, why force the issue. Bench Rafer.
     
  9. Nolocke

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    I somewhat agree with what you're saying and I'm up for trying any and all kinds of player rotations to get the right chemistry. It will interesting to see if Rafer steps up his game tonight since it seems he plays much better with Tracy out.
     
  10. fmp087

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    Rafer needs to control the ball to be effective, which is true for most PG's who have good dribbles, but can not shoot at a high percentage (ie. Andre Miller). But when you have players like Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, or even Tracy McGrady on your team, you have to have PG's that can be effective as spot up shooters (ie. Derek Fisher, Mo Williams). Don't get me wrong I am in no way comparing LJ and KB to Tmac, we all know they are miles ahead of Tmac right now.

    The thing is when you have athletic wing players that can create for themselves as well as others, they need gaurds that can shoot the ball. I think having Rafer in the starting lineup, is one BIG reason why we haven't got out of the first round.

    I do agree a change needs to be made. It can come via trade or Adelman can just tweak his lineup.

    Insert Aaron Brooks with Tmac and Yao and just watch this team explode (in a good way), IMO.
     
  11. plutoblue11

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    I actually think this year's team is not going full-speed ahead in the season, I seriously think that they are dogging it until the playoffs.

    I'm not saying that they aren't playing hard, but after the last few seasons and giving how the west is shaping up this year. We already know we are probably going to make the playoffs...but can we make it there in one piece and get out of the first round.

    We haven't really peaked this year, but we don't usually peak until the second half of the season, especially over the last 6 or 7 years. We're almost to the all-star break and little past the halfway point of the season with roughly 30 games left...no one has been seriously injured, yet and not showing any signs of breaking down. Combine that with an easy schedule, things should be looking up...we can really play any worse than we've already played.
     
  12. Gakatron

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    To be honest this team is good against the good teams with all 3 imo but terrible against the bad teams. I think the team without Ron and Mac would be able to consistently beat those bad teams we keep on slipping up to but with all 3 our record against the elite teams is right up there...it's going to be a frustrating season but I still believe we can be dangerous come playoffs time with the big 3 if there are no trades.

    Thanks Clutch for the stats...I find it interesting we have the best 2 out of 3 combo with Ron/Yao, wonder if there is a reason there? Lot of people think Artest going over T-Mac was the better idea... this seems to suggest otherwise. I guess the D could be the factor.
     
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    Which again proves that this team will win when they have to...I think we could beat any of the elite teams in any given place?

    Most of the elite teams now play a very-half court centric game, which also works out for us. The teams that we used to fear the most, the fast-pace, run N gun teams who usually loved to front Yao is not there any more.
     

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