This is the problem and why I'm very uncomfortable with this. There is no clear single plan. There are people, both for and against, who are saying this will actually mean no police. I agree that won't be the case even if a defund and dismantle program goes forward. This is the type of change that could have profound implications and many of those possibilities aren't necessarily good. I've mentioned before how I have neighbors who are very liberal but this week have been talking about getting guns and defending our neighborhood. The confusion that this is generating especially when people are talking about relying upon communities to take on the load of policing themselves is going to accelerate that.
Yes i saw someone repost something from a site that claimed to be a law enforcement forum that Minneapolis Officially Voted to Disband the Police. No vote has been taken.
Obviously you are not, but all the movements you were behind now obviously were. You thought whats that one dude was fully legal also. Probably look a little deeper into these things. Anti police people want to get rid of the police.
Something like this would require extensive stopgap planning, and a lot of seed money. But a ground up rebuild may become the only answer. The police force is so corrupt and rotten to the core I'm sure they would try to strike immediately once the plan was announced and leave the city to burn. Police unions have consistently stonewalled any attempt to clean up their act and as long as they can play the "you need us" card will continue to do so. This is mostly pandering. I do think long term change will come from this, but I will be shocked if anybody at the city level is willing to take on a task this huge. The tide has turned and reform is coming, but it will likely take decades
I saw that episode and I agree with a lot of what he said especially about Bob Kroll. That said pardon me if I don't join him in his self-righteousness regarding accepting the burning down. I'm not sure who the woman is at the end and I don't know if she's referring to Minneapolis. If she is I think the Hall of Fame she is talking about is a black owned sports bar. For all those who say we should burn some sh^t down..
As a Minneapolitan I think this is the right move to take a year to develop a plan and get community input. There are a lot of people speaking through the protests but I know from talking to neighbors and others in this city that there still is a lot of concern regarding defunding and dispanding the MPD. I still will not support any plan without clear goals, a discussion of both the positives and potential negatives, and a solid implementation plan. Hopefully at the end of this process we can see a lot of public buy-in into this. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneapolis-city-council-police-department-new-public-safety-system/ Minneapolis City Council approves plan to create new public safety system The Minneapolis City Council on Friday unanimously passed a resolution to create a "transformative new model for cultivating safety" following the death of George Floyd in police custody last month. The vote comes days after nine of the city's 13 council members announced their intent to disband the city's police department. The resolution kicks off a year-long process of "community engagement, research, and structural change to create a transformative new model for cultivating safety in our city." The city is also establishing a "Future of Community Safety Work Group" that will report back to the council by July 24 with recommendations for engaging with community members on the transition into the new public safety model. The group will be comprised of members from several government agencies, including the Office of Violence Prevention, the Department of Civil Rights, the 911 Working Group, and the Division of Race and Equity. "The City Council will engage with every willing community member in Minneapolis, centering the voices of Black people, American Indian people, people of color, immigrants, victims of harm, and other stakeholders who have been historically marginalized or under-served by our present system," the resolution says. "Together, we will identify what safety looks like for everyone." The council's resolution makes clear that the death of George Floyd has pushed reform alone off the table: "No amount of reforms will prevent lethal violence and abuse by some members of the Police Department against members of our community, especially Black people and people of color." "Decades of police reform efforts have not created equitable public safety in our community, and our efforts to achieve transformative public safety will not be deterred by the inertia of existing institutions, contracts, and legislation," reads the resolution; which also quotes Angela Davis in stating: "In a racist society, it is not enough to be non-racist. We must be anti-racist." Efforts to dismantle the city's police department have been supported by a majority of the city council. Mayor Jacob Frey, however, has opposed such a move. "What I will say is that I am committed to that deep structural reform," Frey said in a press conference Wednesday. "If you're talking about having a full culture shift in the Minneapolis Police Department, I am on board. If you're talking about making sure that we're not criminalizing poverty or addiction in making sure that we have a different conceptual approach to how we handle it, I am fully on board. But if you're talking about abolishing the police department, no, I am not." Steve Fletcher, one of the council members, told CBSN earlier this week that the council intends to "end the Minneapolis police department as we know it," Fletcher told CBSN. The proposed structural changes would put an emphasis on crime prevention before crime-stopping, he said. In the resolution, the council notes that this year's city budget allocated $193 million to the police department — representing over 36% of the City's General Fund. This is more than the combined city budgets for many initiatives in the city, including workforce development, affordable housing construction, small business support programs, environmental sustainability, and youth development, among others.
Fairly similar scale and Camden was arguably the most dangerous metro area in the country -- certainly not a project to rush but if you can improve the situation in Camden then it's worth evaluation.
