What if there is intel out there that Giannis is leaving the Bucks If they get stomped again this year? What If the deal involved a wink that we'd be first in line If KPJ forced his way out? Do not mind having that Unprotected 2022 1st. Would not doubt Stone after the Covington/Wood shadiness.
Dipo has value, some of the contenders are gun shy to trade because, the new team don't want to overpay Rockets and lose him for nothing next year.
Kevin Porter Jr. threw his locker room tantrum the day after the Rockets traded Harden because the Cavaliers gave his locker to Taurean Prince, who they acquired in the three-team deal. If the Rockets wanted him in the trade, they should have asked for him. As for the Bucks, Giannis could force a trade in the next two years, but that’s far from a guarantee and not something any GM should be betting on. He already passed up the opportunity to play in Miami for the max to stay with the Bucks in the first place. Jarrett Allen at his age and production is worth a fringe top-10 pick and at least a pick inside the top 15.
How do you know they didn't, or that it wasn't discussed with KPJ's ongoing issues? Just a coincidence that Stone wrapped up a deal so quickly, eh? It all depends on the intel. Making bets like that is how you gain a competitive advantage. See Christian Wood deal... All kinds of weirdness there. The Cavs have 8 wins and 17 losses in the games JA has played. There is NO WAY IN A MILLION YEARS THAT JA ON A NEW FAT DEAL IS WORTH A TOP 10 PICK. HELL NO...
I never said Jarrett Allen is a superstar (he’s Clint Capela with better shooting touch), but most superstars aren’t drafted with the ninth or 10th pick in the draft or later. (Kawhi and the Spurs and Giannis and the Bucks are two such examples, but it’s not the norm). As for the Rockets discussing Porter Jr. with the Cavs during the Harden trade negotiations, they may have, and the Cavs told them they didn’t want to trade him. Before the locker room tantrum, the Cavs were not looking to deal Porter Jr.
I’d agree with the take if we weren’t talking about sports. These players walk around like victims of some unfairness when in reality they are getting paid millions to play basketball. They aren’t in an unfair situation. They are the 1%. And on another note, effectively letting players out of contracts and letting them b**** and moan until they get what they want? I can’t stand it. Super teams are ruining the NBA.
Yup, no one is giving up a top 10 pick for Clint Capela on a bigger deal. How would anyone know they weren’t looking to deal KPJ?
I don’t think Jarrett Allen will get significantly more than the five-year, $80-million deal the Rockets gave Clint Capela because of how the NBA views centers now. He might get a little more because unlike Capela, he can make free throws (72% this season and 70% for his career). I also agree with you that no team currently inside the top 10 of the draft lottery would give up their current projected pick for Allen because they all hope for luck and a top-3 pick, which is worth much more than Allen. However, based on production and his age, teams could do a lot worse than giving up their 9th or 10th overall pick for a player like him in many cases. In the 2019 draft: Jaxson Hayes went 8th overall; Allen is better. Cam Reddish went 10th overall; Allen is better. Jarrett Culver went 6th overall; Allen has been the better pro to date. The 2020 draft was one of the weakest in recent memory, and Allen would easily have been worth giving up the 9th or 10th pick to acquire. Even in the 2018 draft, Allen would be inside the top 10 players. (Ayton, Doncic, Jaren Jackson Jr, Trae Young, MPJ, Collin Sexton, Mikal Bridges, and Shai Gilgeous Alexander are more valuable, and but Allen has been better than both Marvin Bagley and Miles Bridges.). Mitchell Robinson is comparable, but he hasn’t been better than Allen, either. Also, if the Cavaliers were actively looking to deal Porter Jr before his locker room tantrum, either local or national NBA reporters would have mentioned it. The news broke that the Cavs were either trading or releasing Porter Jr. shortly after he threw his locker room tantrum because the organization gave his locker to Prince. Before that, the team was trying to work with him on his maturity issues following an offseason arrest for weapons charges. He also slipped in the 2019 draft because of character concerns coming out of USC.
Totally agreed, but that isn't what you previously stated. I accept your retraction. I disagree. Not all dirt makes it out publicly. Much of that dirt is known in NBA circles amongst management before it goes public, IMO. Nationally, take a look at the bizarre rumors coming out of the C-Wood deal. Totally sheisty stuff going on that wasn't reported.
Now that is a difficult question to answer my friend. You are asking what will two of the most unpredictable and unstable teams in NBA history (Rockets recently and Knicks going over 10 years back) do when given the chance near the deadline? Here is an article from SpaceCityScoop that breaks down the trade exemption of the Rockets. Nevermind the 10 players we should pursue listed (except Bamba). Note that four of the trade exemptions are about to expire. March 19 & 20th: Gerald Green, Capela, Nene, Jordan Bell https://spacecityscoop.com/2021/02/13/10-players-houston-rockets-can-add-through-trade-exceptions/ Rockets may be doing something before the March 25th deadline, as the team might need to move players to bring in players by way of trade exemptions.
I think at this point we are as likely to trade Dipo to a team that values him as a player as we are to a team that is looking to offload a bad salary and cut cap space for future spend. The Warriors and Wiggins are the obvious candidates, but I could see the Cavs and Love or the Kings and Hield wanting to get out from under bad contracts.
Fair enough. I apologize for not being more clear from the beginning. Yes, not all dirt makes it out publicly, but, in the case of Porter Jr., the Cavs gave him to the Rockets for a second-round pick that will never convey. If that’s really the value they placed on him before the outburst, he would have been in the Harden trade since he’s an inexpensive contract. In this case, the Cavs decided they were done with him after the tantrum and wanted him out of their locker room at all costs. That said, it is possible that Altman gave Stone first dibs on Porter Jr. once Cleveland decided he was finished with them because the Rockets showed interest in acquiring him for Jarrett Allen.
Playing like crap with a horrible attitude, negatively impacting rest of team...not the best way to raise your market value.
I was hoping the Knicks would want 20 points a night Oladipo to close some of the gap on Nets/Bucks/76ers and they got that from Quickley tonight. They started him vs Nets and he got over 21 points. That might complicate things if they roll the dice on Rose coming back (out tonight) plus Quickley playing like he did tonight. They may go a different route on spending their money. Mavs have two young players but both are averaging 2 points and each at about 16% from 3. So I don't know about Mavs?
The team he wants to go to also doesn't want to pull a Dolan/Anthony situation. Just trade the guy for smaller expiring contracts or rookie contracts or just have him sit. We're not getting anything spectacular for him. Someone call Hinkie!
