[Dime] Who’s Better: Manu Ginobili or Tracy McGrady?

Manu can't get the same salary as TMac because he's not as good.

 

I dream for the day when people will just judge T-mac for his production, w/o rehashing, "When he's healthy".

It's ridiculous. T-mac played all of last season unhealthy, and is going to play this entire year unhealthy as well. When are we ever going to see a 'healthy' Tracy?

People need to stop making excuses for him. For example, the argument that T-mac would put up better numbers with a better supporting cast in SA is also ludacris. For one, T-mac put up the best #'s of his career in Orlando. Secondly, since 2005, Houston has gotten more talented each season, and T-mac's #'s have dropped lower and lower. Thirdly, you'll have a hard time convincing me that Duncan/Parker/Finley/Bonner/Bowen/Mason is much better, if at all, than Yao/Artest/Battier/Scola/Landry.

 

Well when all of those guys are healthy and playing together, the Rockets(led by mcgrady) can compete with anyone. The problem is, that hasn't happened yet this season. Time will tell.

 

whose a better player? Tmac

Who would I rather want looking on the business side of it? Manu

 

Clearly, Mr. Katz has never actually seen Ginobili play. He has absolutely NO right hand skills at all. In all the years I've been watching him play, I have yet to see him make a move going to his right.

 

He is not nearly as good as Mcgrady in isolation plays. The kinds of plays that usually end games.

Again, I'm taking Mcgrady.

 

What do you mean that was a fun read?! You're clearly not a fan. Brent Barry is better than Manu, even when he doesn't try. He shoots the three-ball better, passes better and has better hair.

Duh.

 

LOL, this is same article is posted on the Spurs forums and the majority of them say McGrady. I swear some of our fans are just awful.

 

Manu cannot lead a team like what McGrady did last season, nor can he beat McGrady when healthy. McGrady, without the injuries, would be #1 SG in the NBA.

 

Kobe? Wade?

 

A 100% McGrady would own Kobe and Wade anytime.

 

What do you mean a 100 percent mcgrady? Does that guy exist anymore?

 

I'd rather have Manu because he is more healthy. If the rockets had the Orlando Magic a.k.a Prime T-Mac.

I'll take that prime T-Mac over the current Kobe.

 

There is a possibility, you can't negate that. The fact is when he was 100% he dominated.

 

I never heard Pop say that. In the telecast tonight, they were discussing this very issue. What Pop told them is that he comes the bench so (1) Duncan and Parker have more freedom at the start to get off, and (2) they have a weak bench otherwise.

JVG tonight said it. Fans underappreciate how good Ginobili is because he comes off the bench. People in the league know how special a player he is. One of things he mentioned was Ginobili's high level of competitiveness. I don't think we should understate the importance of that. It's one area where Ginobili is very obviously ahead of McGrady. I have to question Tracy's competitiveness, and his will to win in the face of adversity.

 

Yeh hes ahead of mcgrady there....But when has ginobilli ever been criticized to the extent Mcgrady has? Since Gino has been in the league he has been praised. Mcgrady has over come massive amounts of unwarranted criticism and he's still playing at a high level.

 

Which Spurs forum? Show the link. I went to spurstalk, and that absolutely was not the case.

 

he has said it.

Yeah, and that would be the very same reason Ginobody would come off the bench if he were a Rocket instead of Artest, so TMac and Yao have more freedom at the start to get off, and we would have a weak bench otherwise.

 

How do you know?

That's what I'm saying. The arguments for T-Mac are hypothetical. Ginobili gets penalized in the comparison because he's played his entire career next to one of the top 10 or 15 basketball players in NBA history.

Take last year. Ginobili averaged 22.9 points per 40 minutes when played with Duncan, in 1470 minutes. He averaged 29 points per 40 minutes when playing without Duncan, in 827 minutes.

Compare that to T-Mac. Last year, he averaged 22.5 points per 40 minutes with Yao in 1145 minutes, and 24.4 points per 40 minutes without him in 1287 minutes.

 

Agreed. What's your point? Tracy is a low-energy, rhythm player. He's better suited for starting games then leading the second unit.