[Dime] More of China blaming the Rockets for Yao's injury

I don't trust basketball-reference. The weights are often inaccurate if the player has gained weight. Yes, they do use the rookie weight. They will update it if you contact them though.

Just look at Mutombo's profile.

Mutombo listed at 260 lbs. He had put on 15 lbs since college.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dikembe_mutombo
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=588

Basketball reference lists his weight at 245 lbs.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mutomdi01.html

That's Mutombo's college weight. It's almost 20 years old, and it still hasn't been updated by basketball-reference.com

http://www.hoyabasketball.com/features/top100/d_mutombo.htm

Let's check McGrady and see if he gained weight. They are listing his old weight.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tracy_mcgrady/
http://espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=532

I would ESPN and the NBA over a statistics website that uses Mutombo's listed weight from almost 20 years ago.

Mark Eaton's listed weight on ESPN. 290 lbs.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/news?playerId=3693


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/news?playerId=3693+

 

there just saying that because its their fault
doctors warned yao and the chinese national team that his i9nnjury wasnt healed yet but they still played him and not only that he played all the games and they hardly took him out

plain and simply hes just injury prone hes a monster players get hurt it happens its no ones fault except for the refs which were coinsidently always bailing out the lakers he will be back and he will be better than ever just you watch

 

Seems like the best comparison would be between his first few years in the league against this past year.

Seeing as how stress fractures are a result of being overworked, I'd say the absence of stress fractures would constitute "not being overworked."

 

It's a combination of playing Yao too much too win meaningless games and Yao not asking for rest in games where we're up by 20 or the game doesn't matter. We maybe had 10 or 12 games like that. However, what's to say he doesn't injure his foot anyway.

Also, there isn't any other place in the world that Yao can showcase his talents and earn $10 mln plus for playing less than 82 games on average.

Love ya Big Fella, tell your fellow country men to chill.

 

How about you're both right?

Yao can not be measured as others because there are no others like him. He's 7'5 300lbs. He is injury prone because he's 7'5 300lbs. He was not over worked by normal NBA standards, you expect that kind of min from your max players. However, that work load is more than Yao can handle, especially considering his summer obligations. Yao was overworked because he's injury prone (due to his height).

When you make a 7'5 300lb center with summer obligations the face of your franchise, you accept the fact that this kind of injury will happen. When you're a player of Yao's caliber playing in the NBA, you expect this kind of minutes. Yao breaking down is something everyone probably should have expected as soon as he proved to be a franchise center in the NBA.

Chinese basketball officials shouldn't criticize Rockets because they should know these playing time were the expectations of a NBA starter when Yao joined the NBA. Rockets fans shouldn't be mad at China for his injury because we knew the conditions when we drafted him. These are the strings that came attached and all parties entered it willingly.

 

seems to me its his foot structure thats at fault. Lets just hope this surgery worked and he will have no more prob..like cavs center ilgaskis( or however you spell it). Worked for him. So passing the blame does no good because he is injured either way. Sounds kinda childish to point fingers.

 

It's the doctor not the patient.

 

Is Daryl Morey mocking Chinese fans on his Twitter account?

http://twitter.com/dmorey

"Intl fan mail: we laugh wildly at idiot GM unlimited brainlessly shooting like a fly without head wasting Yao cause world fans sad very much"

I laughed.

 

"Intl fan mail: A Haiku"

Yahoo Babelfish,
an angry fan wants to vent,
Translate: EPIC FAIL.

 

Its f***××× ridiculous for Chinese to blame Yao's injury on Rockets at the first place, then its even more ridiculous for you guys to make a big deal out of it.

 

guys what's with the thread title? "China blames" a few members of the chinese national team blamed the rockets, not the entire country or even the government, stop trying to make them look like villains.

 

I have a friend here in Las Vegas who is a "Sports Medicine" doctor. He works mostly with marathon runners, but he does work with any athletes. Yes Yao plays a LOT more with the Rockets than the CNT, but the main reason for "stress fractures" and related injuries is NOT the amount of minutes played, it's due to NOT RESTING between seasons year in and year out. The doctor says NO athlete can play his sport year round every year without expecting to suffer some sort of stress injury. Tennis players, golfers, runners all athletes need to let their body rest at some point during the year. I asked him "what about all those other NBA players who played in the Olympics?" "yes, but they do not do it every year!"he said.

Bottom line: Yao needs to play for the CNT or the NBA and not both.

 

oh yea china blame the nba for yao's injury. u guys were the ones begging him 2 play in the olympics right after he got injured with the stress fracture. just because u guys want the money nd the tickets to sell. yao doesnt want to play for china anymore and thats why he chosed to come to the nba for the competition and the fame that china cant give him

 

Did you let your friend know that Yao Ming doesn't play year round basketball?

Yao played only 4 months of NBA 2007-08, Nov-Feb. He had 8 months rest from Mar-Oct. Remove 1 month for Chinese ball.
That's 7 months rest and 5 months of basketball.

Yao played only 4 months of NBA ball in '06-07, Nov-Dec and Mar-Apr. That's 2 months rest for Jan-Feb. There is 6 more months rest for May-Oct. Remove 1 month for Chinese ball. That's 7 months of rest(6+2-1) and 5 months of ball.

Perhaps the Rockets and chinese should give Yao ming 8 months rest and play him 4 months only. One month of chinese basketball and 3 months of the NBA season. Playoffs is the most important, so the Rockets can sit Yao until March-May(playoff games in May).

 

1.) The season he's paid $16 million for? The reason anyone knows his name?
2.) The one that interrupts his rest time in the offseason

Saying that it's the Rockets' fault is, exactly, bad basketball logic. That's like saying it's the Astros' fault that Lance Berkman got hurt when he was playing flag football. That ACL wouldn't have been blown had he spent the whole season on the bench! This makes sense! Waaaaaah!

I'm not normally that bitter about these things, but I can't wait for this season. No freaking YOFs whining on the forums.

via @dmorey: we laugh wildly at idiot GM unlimited brainlessly shooting like a fly without head wasting Yao cause world fans sad very much

 

Well I agree he was overused. By the Chinese making him comeback without full recovery time for his injury probably caused it then he had to go onto the games in Houston just completed the damage. The thing is it might not have happened without those extra games in China though when he rushed back before his healing timetable. So I agree with them that they helped overuse him. They want no blame but all the credit. Doesnt work like that in a non Communist nation with media that isnt censored to say what the government wants.

 

Dr. of Dunk's driving to work metaphor was by far the best way to explain it.

To those saying Yao played too many minutes in the NBA, what's not too many minutes? He played 33+ minutes this year and had a stress fracture. Not only that but I believe they also decreased his practice time to go along with that?

So now what, no practice and 25 min. cap? What if that's not enough? Where does it go from there?

Yao is going to be injury prone because he is huge. There is nothing within reason the Rockets could do that would illiminate the probability of him getting hurt, and who determines where those bounds are?

If he didn't play during the summer anymore would that stop it? Maybe. It wouldn't hurt. If he played 5 mpg here that would probably help too. But as it stands neither of those are going to happen and everyone involved with Yao is going to have to get used to the fact that his body is simply going to break down.

 

WRONG - The NBA season starts the first week of Nov, but there is the preseason and training camp too. Plus the season runs to May or even June if you make the playoffs. I doubt that the CNT uses him for only one month too. Is that just games or training too. The point is Yao - (or anybody) cannot continue to play year round every year. Maybe he is injury prone. My doctor friend said that Yao's size makes it even worse than a smaller player on his feet and legs. You can doubt it all you want, but its a fact and Yao's injuries have proven it.

 

He didn't play the entire NBA season. If you can show me the video of him playing 1 game in 2007-08 from March to July for the NBA season, I'll eat crow.

You can also dispute the '06-07 season also. If you can show him paying in January-February Or June-July, I'll eat crow.

He has a broken foot, therefore Yao played 12 months of basketball. You just made up a cause from an effect. I could also say Yao has a broken foot before he came to the NBA, the Chinese played him too much in China and caused permanent foot damage. It doesn't make it true.