[Dime] More of China blaming the Rockets for Yao's injury

But this is where I think you're wrong. You are saying how much the Rockets play him plays a bigger role in Yao's injury than what the national team does. The Rockets don't even play the guy what most of the great centers in league history have played. If anything, blame Yao that his body can't handle what the average good-to-very good center is put through. Most NBA centers do get to rest during the summer, however.

Again, you come back to that. Grinding what out? The guy hasn't averaged that many minutes per season. Want more comparisons?

David Robinson, during his peak years averaged 36-40 mpg per season.
Hakeem Olajuwon, during his peak years averaged 36-41 mpg per season.
Patrick Ewing, during his peak years averaged 36-38 mpg per season.

Yao Ming avg. mpg per season : 32.7 playing (3 of those seasons he played less than 60 games)

These are all the great centers. So when you say "grinding it out over the course of the regular season is the main reason why his body can't hold up", all you're saying is that, playing far fewer games and minutes than most great centers in the NBA did, his body can't hold up. In which case, how on earth can you blame the NBA?

It's like saying "driving to work caused his wreck". Well, lots of people drive to work and don't get into wrecks. Maybe they were unlucky. Maybe their car failed. Maybe they weren't paying attention. But are you really going to blame their job for the wreck? I mean sure, if they didn't have a job, they wouldn't have gotten into the wreck, but come on.

 

irregardless of whose fault it is, for them to blame adelman for this particularly injury? the rockets made it a purpose to lessen the load on yao: less practice time, less minutes, less offensive responsibility... AND he still gets injured.

lets just say yoa is injury-prone. and he will be until he retires.

 

they said "the houston head coach played him too much, that's why he's injured." that's directly on adelman.

 

Okay. I'll stop this discussion because everyone only mentions irrelevant stuff.

1. How much the Rockets pay him is irrelevant. Because we're not discussing ethics here. Just what is factored more into his injuries. Plenty of teams run their players to the ground. I really could care less how badly the Rockets abused or didn't abuse Yao. Les is out to make money, not for Yao's welfare.

2. How many minutes he's played is also irrelevant. Because he can play 20 minutes per game, and STILL take a lot more pounding than he ever did in the Olympics or any of his other CNT obligations.

If people want to think that CNT caused more injuries to Yao than the NBA, then I have nothing more to say.

And to Dr. of Dunk: 6-0 to 7-1 centers don't have a well-documented history of developing injuries. 7-4 to 7-6 players do. See Ralph Sampson(career cut by injuries) and Rik Smits(average 26 mpg in his career, peaked at 30 mpg).

 

funny how every nba player manages all the games plus their international play just fine without getting injured.

Yao is injury prone. That's just it.

 

Does anyone remember that at the begining of last season Adelman was considered to overuse Yao and Tmac too much, and the rockets organization had to force Adelman to limit their playtime?

 

Ah, so now we're getting to core problem... could it be.... maybe.... his size is the factor more than his NBA schedule? Naaaaah. The Rockets should've just played him 5 mpg.

 

the NBA pays yao so yao has an obligation to play for the rockets. the only time the NBA is off is during the offseason. 99% of NBA players use that time to REST and HEAL themselves from the wear and tear of the NBA and get their bodies stronger. yao rarely does that and plays for the chinese basketball team most of the time.

and that's his choice. it's not minutes or whatever b/c yao has never played heavy minutes. the fact that yao plays basketball year-round without rest is the problem.

 

Yao averaged 37.2 minutes per game the season before. For Yao, that may be too much. For the centers who were stars of their team, that is about average or less. Again, don't blame the Rockets if Yao's physique/body can't handle it.

 

if yao averaged 10 minutes a game he would get hurt.
trade him and tmac please.

 

It is a combination of Yao's size, which is hard on the feet, and the NBA grind, it is a long season.

But the players get paid a lot of $$$$ to play those games....so....at the end of it all....just circumstance.

Maybe if the CNT paid $15 million a year Yao would have stayed there.



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The way China has handled Yao Ming's career has all but guaranteed that no Chinese citizen will ever be an NBA franchise player again.

 

Outcome: Yao is out of entire season, and the rockets still need to pay his salary, and get 0 game on national tv.

This is not about 'blame'. Acutually, it is about whether this outcome can be avoided!

 

I think the blame should be on the Chinese government for creating Yao Ming in a lab.

 

Stern and Les won't agree. The money that Yao help nba and the rockets earn from China is much much more than that!

 

Lets say you're working for my landscape business as a lawnmower. One day, on the job, an accident happens and you get your arm chopped off. Your boss says, "Oh well I paid him $15 an hour and thats way more than most landscapers make so I don't have any more obligation to him". So you're saying that since its 15 million and not 15 dollars that it makes a difference?

 

Or, could it be... maybe... this Cui guy was just rebuffing all the American media putting all the blame on the CNT, and not just saying this stuff to antagonist our great country of USA? Naaaaah. The American media is God. And cannot possibly be BSing.

 

It's totally irrelevant to compare Yao to star centers of the past/present unless they have a comparable physique.

If Yao's body can't handle the minutes he's being assigned, it stands to reason that the minutes should be decreased.

FWIW, I find it very easy to blame the Rockets for their annual failure to acquire a competent backup center.

 

Who cares how much Yao is playing or who he's playing with. China's retared for pointing fingers in the first place. Yao Ming would be injured regardless whether how much he plays. His body is so fragile that this guy is expected to break down every year.

I don't know whats the rush in Yao coming back this season anyway. I rather have him sit out this whole season or even the next few seasons. The more he will play for this team, the more he will hold back this team with his injuries and the big gapping hole he left in this roster over and over again.

Im just tired that every season when he breaks down, we are held behind over and over again. People tend to bash Tmac more but actually Tmac only had one season ending injury rather than Yao with his injuries for the last couple of season. Its time to move on and start fresh.

 

Well dont say never. He played 80+ games his first 3 years. Averaging 30-31 min during that time.

Next 3 years he averaged about 36 minutes and was injured each year.

Lowered his minutes to about 33-34 per game for last year and he was able to play 77 games.

Minutes is a big thing here.