this guy is r****ded. i guess all the cuts and stress fractures and his dedication to training even harder don't explain enough. yao is by far the most versatile center right now.
Looks like a pretty damn good list. I find it funny that there are a lot of people defending Yao but nobody defending TMac. Yao is definitely softer than TMac but they're both way too soft. There's a reason they never get out of the first round together. Carlos Boozer dunking on Yao's head over and over again. TMac shooting too many jumpers when he needs to keep driving the lane. LOL to those saying KG and Sheed are soft. Funny that they both have rings though. Anyway, there's probably no more passionate and aggressive player in the last 10 years than KG and Sheed is straight up crazy. You don't watch much basketball if you're questioning the toughness of these two guys.
Ppl said that second parts are never good but this one is greater and dumber that the first one. 7'6? How many 7'6 are in the game? Who miss more than Yao? 160 Shaq, 177 Dwade, 160 Yao. I see no difference, Dirk is a tougher that Shaq 236 games in the last 3 years. And again making jumper make you tough? a Center making jumper? Then why is Shaq mention as a future HOF if he is soft player that miss game and can't make jumpers. Wooow just wow.
?What? On offense or defense, because on offense they are on the top of the softer 7 footers on the NBA. And yes rings. O yea how many they won as the man. Yes 0 rings. And how many they won in their 6 years on the NBA, yes 0. Is funny that they both got trade for not been able to lead their team to a Ring. Who was the MVP finals? Billups and Pierce. Yes the trust hurt.
That they have the ability to shoot a jump shot doesn't make them soft in fact with Sheed in particular, it's his ability to hit three pointers that makes him a valuable player. KG has been 1st team All-NBA defense SEVEN TIMES. Calling him soft is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. KG may not have won in his first six years in the league but Carlos Boozer never used him for a dunking drill in the playoffs like Yao got worked over. You're seriously here talking about Yao not being soft and your comparisons are KG and Sheed. You just don't watch basketball. Tell me wise one, who was the best player KG ever played with before he went to Boston? Anyone as good as TMac in his prime? Not likely. You're talking about players who've achieved MUCH more than Yao as if they're the ones that have something to prove. Yao is the guy who can't stay healthy. Yao is the guy who's never been first team anything. Yao is the guy who can't get out of the first round of the playoffs. Yao is the "superstar center" that can't average 10 boards a game. Yao is the most hyped thing since the iPod. Yes, the "trust" hurts.
Oh man i can tell your a Yao Fan. What the hell does stats have 2 do with a guy dunking or not. Im talking about the man's game not his stats so why do i need to look at stats. Plus Yao dunking more than KG in the last 4 years lmao man please Yao is a finesse player and so is KG but KG knows when 2 dunk the ball. When down low i never seen him lay the ball up as much as Yao does. Like i said im not a Yao Ming hater but when your alone or you get an offensive rebound you put it back by dunking it not laying it up. I can understand that's not Yao's game but come on dunk the ball man. Don't let the rim block your shot when you decide 2 do it either
Rik Smits was not soft. I couldn't stand the guy but the man could play. he was not soft not at all. Same goes for Shawn Bradley. he was an ok player but later down the road he was awful.
who cares about dunks or layups when they go in? my gripe is yao shoots the same layups when he's guarded that he does when he's open so he'll get blocked. when he's not clearly open, dunk it so it won't get blocked. sometimes, not dunking costs him points and that's when the problem for me arises. if they go in either way, i don't care.
One of the biggest knocks on Garnett during his career was that he would rather shoot jumpers and fadeways than post-up or drive to the rim. He may not be soft, but that was part of his reputation (the other being a choker under pressure).
It depends on how you interprete soft. When I refer to Yao as as soft, I mean when he ahs the ball in his hands. He goes up soft when finishing around the rim.
where did you get this stat? when did Wade miss 177 games? I am sure you are just r****d and can not read. I never said making jumpers making a center tough. I said when you can make your jumpers in the practice, you'd have to make them in the game. Shaq could not make jumpers, he did not shoot jumpers. <--- tough KG can make jumpers, he shoot jumpers in the game. <---"soft" with good reason and result. Yao can not make jumpers, yet he shoot a lot jumpers in the game.<-- soft and bad.
Yo Shaq is 35-36 years old. What else do you expect from the guy. Shaq has been through it all. Come on man stop using stats to back you up. Stats don't show the whole thing towards a player. Look at Battier for example.
Eh, it depends on what the definition of soft is... soft doesn't mean bad, and it doesn't mean poor at scoring, rebounding, defense or lacking passion in my opinion. That said, I'd kind of have to agree with Yao and T-Mac being put on the soft list. I don't know they are truly top 10 when it comes to being soft, as I don't think this list takes into account a lot of the lesser players who are soft but don't get the spotlight like Yao or Tracy. But Yao could definitely be a lot harder when it comes to things like slamming it down or being as physical as he could be at his size. I think that just amounts to the culture in which he was raised though; a lot of foreign players get labeled soft because the game is played differently where they are from. In Europe and China the emphasis is focused more on team glory, finesse, getting and taking good shots; whereas here in America it's much more about personal glory, taking it to the house, slamming it down, and so on. Trash talking and spectacular dunks have been glorified in American basketball for decades, and in China those things are considered distasteful and vulgar. Yao is a product of his culture, so he isn't as "hard" as many American players, and while I would like to see him play a bit more physical and have him slam it down where he often lays it up... I completely hate the way people try say his softness detracts from his overall skill and performance. Were he more physical I don't know that it would really make him any better a player, but it would certainly get him more attention and recognition. It is Yao's softness that contributes to him not getting the respect he deserves. For instance, Dwight Howard may someday soon be better than Yao Ming... but to listen to most people talk you'd think he was already twice as good as Yao. Don't get me wrong, Howard is a hell of a player, and there are nights when he does things Yao doesn't do, but the all around better player has to be Yao. Yao is a better scorer, a comparable rebounder, a better defender, and has more intangibles and a better basketball IQ. Howard is a good scorer, a little better rebounder (his nights of 15-20 rebounds masks his more typical 5-7rebound nights), better shot blocker, and is a "harder" more physical player. Howard has the personality, the spectacular dunks and blocks, and the physical presence that gets the publicity; while Yao's better all-around finesse based play gets him called soft. T-mac on the other hand is seen as soft because he has never gotten his team out of the playoffs. He is seen as soft because people watch him take over games some nights, perform miracles like the 13 in 30 secs, and then don't understand when he can't do that sort of thing every night like Kobe and Lebron do-that's just not the player T-mac is. Another thing that gets him called soft is his constant frankness when confronted with questions by reporters; most players are always acting hard, giving the manufactured and typical athelete answer of "we're gonna give it our all and come out on top" or whatever. T-mac on the other hand has never been afraid to speak his mind, tell the truth, and say what he really thinks, and sometimes this means saying something that is "softer" and more nuanced than the usual "rah-rah" strong, stoic answer given by most atheletes. T-mac's apparent softness, to me, is less based in reality than Yao's so called softness; Tracy at his best can be as "hard" and dunk happy as any player. And in his prime, T-Mac was the prototypical take it to the house, physical, "hardcore" baller whose sleepy eyes masked his ability to be aggressive and take over games. He's a bit "softer" now, in that he prefers to take outside shots or help create team offense by passing, but he's become a different sort of player now... not really "softer" just different. Finally, another factor taken into account for someone labeling a player "soft" is how injury prone they are. In that respect, I can't argue that T-mac and Yao are rather "soft", especially in the past 3 seasons. But saying that they are soft isn't entirely accurate, since it's not like they end up with minor injuries and just can't suck it up and perform. There is no doubt in my mind that if T-Mac or Yao had minor injuries, but the team needed them... that they'd be out there in a heart beat, doing everything they could to help the Rockets win. Just look at what Tracy did for the first several weeks this season; he knew he wasn't 100%, but with Battier out the team needed him to help them get off to a fast start until Shane could return. So, he played... some nights he played poor, some nights he lit up other teams, but when the team needed him he was there. Yao and Tracy may have become injury prone in the past few seasons (and they each may or may not continue to be at varying degrees of seriousness), but unless their injuries are serious and absolutely prevent them from doing so they contribute and suck it up-even when they are out for extended periods they are working out and training to come back strong (especially Yao). Injury prone... yeah, but "soft"? I don't think so.
Your bugging. People call T-Mac soft because he doesn't take it to the whole like he use 2. What you stated was not the reason they call him soft. He doesn't drive like he use 2 in his Orlando days and the 1st season here with us and he is always injured and he complains about his injuries. Thats the main reason people call Mac soft.
Because Shaq is the other extreme of being soft and is not Shaq old Shaq have always have injure issues. Big man get injure a lot there is no connection between being soft and have injures. Artest for sample have injure a lot too. And battier just have an injured now he must be soft too.
