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Difference in mentality between JVG and RA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by sbyang, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. Spacemoth

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    Common knowledge, huh?

    Here's the ranking I live by:

    1. Houston
    2. San Antonio
    3. Phoenix
    4. Denver
    5. Dallas
    6. Utah
    7. Los Angeles
    8. New Orleans

    You know what that is? No it's not my personal opinion, it was John Hollinger's preseason rankings for the Western Conference standings! Oh yeah, that just happened. Just let the Rockets play their other 67 games already.

    To me, the only other ranking that would mean something would be Hollinger/Sagarin's statistical rankings, but the sample size is too small still, so for now I'm sticking to my guns.
     
  2. OrangeRowdy95

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    2 of our assistants are in Boston, 2 are in Orlando, and 1 is at Westbury Christian High School in Houston. The combined winning percentage of those 3 teams is well over .800. Looks like JVG's taught his guys well.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Yeah, no credit to the individual and how hard they each worked.

    You need to take your lips of JVG's knob, he is long gone.

    DD
     
  4. blastaway

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    True, but I think he needs to consider it because as his offense has potential to improve drastically, I don't think the defense will but a wee bit. Where is Tom now? Rick better look at getting some help somewhere or he will be a one leg wonder (if not no legs no wonder) and out the door like JVG eventually.

     
  5. magicwind

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    This probably is not true. RA may not watch many Rox old tapes. I really doubt that if he really watched any! He just follows what he imagines. Otherwise he would never put Head on point in late 4th Q, and he'd never put 4 non-scorer on the court at same time and rest both Yao and Tmac.
    I can stand hearing more about "big picture", "we want win in June, not in Nov." Come on, we dont even know if we can have a position in April. What the heck is the big picture, please get a coach with a (or multiple) ring(s) to say this. I dont believe the big picture words from a former coach of Queens team.
     
  6. YallMean

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    Interesting theory. No substance to back it up though. We shall see.
    Maybe Adelman just doesnt care about the Rockets. :D
     
  7. magicwind

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    Of course if you get a coach having a style "just let go" and you are players who want win deadly, you must have to find way yourself. But then what the heck is the reason the franchise are paying this coach? for him letting guys know "you got to play by yourself!" ??
     
  8. YallMean

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    You put NO and Denver ahead of us? We blew out Nuggets like they are nobody, that team is inferior to us, period. Hornets lost to Twolves at home last night. If that were going to happen to us, I am sure this board would implode.
     
  9. magicwind

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    I dont agree with this expecially the example of Avery Johnson. Mavs lost not because he did too much to controll the team, but becuase he did too few and wrong. He abandoned the 4,5 advantage of Mavs, following GS with a small lineup but with much worse shooting ability and poorer defence. JVG was wrong too in several games agains GS and SUNs. You can never win the game following the opponents tempo, if you are not have 200% much talent than the opponents.
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    Maybe I remembered wrong, but I thought Luther finished the game at PG for the Rockets at least once last season. I think he made an important 3 pointers during that stretch, too.
     
  11. magicwind

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    Agree with you. well said
     
  12. magicwind

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    Won't it be too late? if the team still plays in this level, like playing Clippers, in march or april, that means the season is done. gone fishing soon. no way to improve the team in a month.

    I dont care the Rox record either, like the ugly win against clippers stands for nothing. I care the level they played. There is not such kind of tale that a team got 40 wins in regular season without any injury problem and played just OK suddenly became a 65-win level team in the playoffs.

    The deadline for RA would be around all-star.
     
  13. TheFreak

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    Yes, and we all know the key to the success of those teams has been their assistant coaching.
     
  14. Tuan

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    This is just PURE STUPID.

    What kind of coach DOESNT want a leader on the floor? It might be that neither TMAC or Yao are leaders, but it doesnt mean JVG didnt want a leader.
     
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    After seeing Deke and Yao playing together in the same frontcourt, let's you know RA is not afraid to try different things. JVG on the other hand was the complete opposite.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    The kind of coach who micromanages each and every posession, the kind of coach who yanks players for making little mistakes, and puts them in a doghouse with fake injuries for voicing an opinion that differs from his.

    The kind of coach that got deservedly fired.

    You know, JVG.

    DD
     
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    Adelmans are legit. he pickedup a bad blazers and made them into a powerhouse. in Saramento he picked up a lottery team and made them into the nba's best team. he has a track record of turning franchises around.

    Gundy however inhereted a allready a powerhouse unit from riley. once things became pear shape he quit on them.
     
  18. DaRock1

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    You are right. I remember it too.
     
  19. OrangeRowdy95

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    JVG usually played Head with Rafer in clutch moments, with Battier playing the 4, and TMac would still be the initiator. Head was mega clutch.
    RA had Head handling the ball vs. Miami. Not a good idea if you ask me.
     
  20. OrangeRowdy95

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    Ask an Orlando fan and they'll have nothing but praise for Ewing's work on Dwight Howard, arguably the MVP thus far.

    Ask a Boston fan, and they'll say Doc Rivers sucks, and Tom Thibodeau is the real coach of the team.

    Don't know much about Westbury Christian since I'm out of the loop there, but Ward has always been a great quarterback and leader.
     

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