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Didn't I tell you? Dynamo after Henry

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by BasketballReasons, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. SwoLy-D

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    Let him answer my question, though. :eek:
     
  2. RocketForever

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    Imagine if he did the same thing for Dynamo to score a goal, you guys would be singing praise for him.
     
  3. leroy

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    Not really. I don't think anyone likes to win like that nor be thought of as a cheater...and that goes for fans. Do you think the French fans are proud of winning that way? They're happy to be in the World Cup, but they'd rather have won in a more fair fashion. This will follow Henry wherever he goes for the rest of his career. It's a shame because it's been an amazing career as on of the best forwards on the planet over the past decade plus.
     
  4. rhino17

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    what this guy said
     
  5. BasketballReasons

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    What would you have wanted Henry to do? Just go near the referee and tell him that he touched the ball with his hand? Thats absurd. Henry has never been a cheater and has always been a good sport, i really doubt this will "follow him his entire career".
    There is no way that ANY player would actually go to the referee and tell them to cancel the goal.
    Can you imagine Shane Battier going to a ref after hitting a game winning buzzer-beater 3 in a Game 7 of the 2nd round against the Lakers, and telling the ref: "Hey ref, please don't count the basket, i was out of bounds." or "Hey ref please don't count the basket i travelled."
    There is no way Shane would do that. And I took Shane because he is one, if not the most sport I can imagine.
    Henry is a beast and still is a world class striker, being a forward he would have a much bigger impact than Beckham on any MLS team. And everyone would accept him hands opened IMO.
    What a man has done in the past might reflect what you think of him today, but you can't just categorize Henry as a cheater when the guy has never been a dirty kind of player.

    If there's anyone to blame in this mess, its the referee's and FIFA who should have asked to replay the game or something like that..
     
  6. rhino17

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    No one said to do that, the point is, he never should have cheated in the first place. He knew exactly what he was doing when he did it.
     
  7. Berkmaniac

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    No need to answer a dumb question.

    Like someone else said, there is no comparison between Henry and a steroid user. Premeditated, long-term cheating, knowing they were doing wrong, and a one-time offense that happened in a split second?

    How many players commit hand balls? Hand balls happen every week. So every soccer player that gets a yellow card? Or what about intentionally fouling someone in basketball? That's against the rules; players do that all the time. Or how about beaning a batter in baseball? That is obviously against the rules. Care to name some of the HOF, quality pitchers that have done that in their career?

    Let me answer the question...lol...silly...

    You can say whatever you want, but you are wrong. If Henry actually did come to Houston (which he won't), he would be welcomed with open arms. Maybe you are an Ireland fan, or you hate Barcelona, or Arsenal, or whatever, but whatever...
     
  8. KingCheetah

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    If you really played you would know it's not at all uncommon for a player on offense to tap the ball for a shot when the ref is out of position. It's like a defensive player grabbing a jersey or shorts -- you see it fairly often.
     
  9. AkeemTheDreem86

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    Isn't it up to the referees to call the hand ball? This is like saying traveling is "cheating."
     
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  10. Berkmaniac

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    Yeah, exactly.

    That is also what I was saying. So Swoly-D would never want any pitcher that beaned a batter (which is much more deliberate than Henry's hand ball) to play for the Astros, or he would never want a basketball player that traveled (this is intentionally breaking the rules) to play for the Rockets?

    No matter, he is not coming to Houston, but this is a comical debate nonetheless. Is is laughable to think that the soccer fans in Houston would not be ecstatic to see Henry come to Houston.
     
  11. Kam

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    He's not Mexican.


    He's French.
     
  12. BasketballReasons

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    Yeah he had this big plan and thought about it during weeks before the game!
     
  13. SwoLy-D

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    I DO PLAY, sir. DO YOU? Now to the real reason: Right. On a WORLD CUP qualifier? With 1/2 of EUROPE watching? With about 20 cameras from every angle watching? You still see players do it?? Not to mention he admits he CHEATED. :rolleyes: Sure, it happens ALL THE TIME.

    A travel is not as blatant as that hand ball the world saw. And we know why pitchers bean opposing players, either to show "retaliation" or to just plain show they hate that batter, or to walk them intentionally. They still get tossed from the game if there had been a warning from the umpires.

    I say he's a cheater and he admits he's a cheater. Yet, you want him to watch him play so badly. I guess I know what you are, too, since you defend "THAT." I guess you want EVERY cheater.
     
  14. TheGreat

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    No buddy, Ronaldo from Brazil was the best ever in his prime.
     
  15. Obito

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    Wow what a tool response.
     
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    He admitted it was a handball, intentional or not, and the refs didn't call it. If it's anybodies fault it's the referees fault. Let it go. If you wouldn't take Henry because of the one play than your obviously being completely close minded. Was Maradona's spectacular career tainted when he committed the "manos of dios'? No, it was tainted because his ****** became a total tool. Argentina has won 2 WC's and one of those was because of that play. I'm talking about the actual WC 86' quarter-final, not a game to get in it.

    I watched Arsenal for years and I could sincerely consider him a top 5 striker in the past decade. Not only that, he would completely revolutionize the MLS. If you thought the Beckham move brought attention wait until this goes down.
     
  17. leroy

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    Reading comprehension fail. Where did I say he should've done anything? It's on the refs to make the call. I've played the game for 30 years. I've done my fair share of cheating. It isn't a foul if it isn't called.

    That said, whether you like it or not, it will follow Henry around for the rest of his life. It doesn't change what I think of him as a player. Like I said, he is one of the greatest goal scorers of the last 20 years. Doesn't mean what he did wasn't wrong and that it wasn't cheating on a grand stage. He just didn't get caught and Ireland got screwed, period.
     
  18. magnetik

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    @ about 2:53.. I don't even watch soccer but damn. Love the stutter steps. I don't know about the cheating stuff you guys are talking about but I don't see how having this guy would hurt the team.
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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    For real? You don't know about the cheating stuff? It was all over the sports news, sir.
    We would be taunted as the "Houston HANDynamo." I don't think we would like that. :eek:
     
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  20. yaopao

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    So do you guys consider Battier a flopping cheat? What about Biggio when he would lean into a pitch to draw an HBP?

    Get off your asinine high horse. He didn't kill babies. He touched a f-ing ball with his hand.
     
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