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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Possum, Oct 18, 2002.

  1. Since75

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    I knew this thread was coming. Amare is a banger. He leaps well and does spectacular dunks. You will see that he will be more of a liability particularly in close games if he's playing. Please don't get caught up in the dunks. They only count for 2 points. There aren't any style points in the NBA. BTW can someone compare the minutes and stats for Amare and Eddie?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Live

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    Amare was quite impressive, and has improved considerably since the Mickey D AA game. (Did he go to Big Man Camp over the summer?)

    Everyone compares him to Sonics-version Shawn Kemp, but I see a lot of Karl Malone in his game. He's already quicker and more explosive than Malone has ever been, and has better ball skills. The Suns have a terrific young nucleus, HOU v. PHO (I'm a closet Suns fan :D ) should be a treat for the next decade or so.

    And no, the Rocks didn't make a mistake by drafting Boki or not trading down\drafting Amare.
     
  3. heypartner

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    People forget????

    What are you talking about. Boki has a better chance of being explosive than Griffin??? That is a very weird description.

    What people forget is that Dirk is 7 foot tall, and he was 19 yrs old when drafted. You compare Tsiki to Dirk. I don't see how you can compare Boki to Dirk. The only reason anyone would do that is merely because they are both Europeans. It's like comparing Battier to Garnett. It doesn't make sense. One is an experienced 4 yr college SF at 6'8 and the other is a 7 footer with little experience outside of high school and junior leagues.

    Boki and Gasol were experienced Euro starters at 21yr old. Nowitki and Tsiki were not. And three of them are 7 footers. You don't compare 6'9 players to 7 footers. Not where I grew up, you don't.
     
  4. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I don't think thats the issue here. Boki might turn out to be great. No one is questioning that. However, Stoudemire looked like a potential superstar out there last night. One member said he reminded him of a young Olajuwon with his quick ups and constant energy.
     
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  5. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    boki just has some langhiitis. its all the same simptoms:

    -shows great athletisism in practice

    -shoots lights out in practice (boki hit 35-36) (langhi out shot bull)

    -loses confidence during games

    i say we shake him out of this before it gets worse. start him next game. run almost every play for him, and make him guard the other teams best player untill he feels comfortable shooting/dribbling the ball and playing tough defence.

    leave him in there the whole game if you have to. its only preseason.
     
  6. verse

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    it amazes me how many "rocket fans" consistently butcher the spelling of hakeem olajuwon's name.
     
  7. TheFreak

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    Do you have some inside info that says the Rockets didn't try to trade up in the draft?
     
  8. OverRRated

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    ......okay, if you say so. :rolleyes:


    I agree with you Smoothie 100%.
    Though, I still think they're trying to bring him in slowly because of his injury, I don't know? But yes, I would love to see him in at least 2 quarters of action this next game.
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    My bad, I was just typing to fast.
     
  10. RocksMillenium

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    I said more explosive at the SF position, I didn't say he would be more explosive then Griffin. There's a huge difference between Griffin dominating at the PF spot, his natural position, and the SF spot, which is Nachbar's natural position. Did I compare Dirk to Boki? No. I compared their SITUATIONS. Dirk came into Dallas with a lot of fanfare and it took him some time to adjust to the league, and it hurt his confidence early. Am I comparing them because they're European? Yep. Because it's a different style then college. I can't compare Nachbar to, say, Stoudemire, because they played in two different leagues with two different styles, and Stoudemire didn't have to adjust to a different culture and league. Their height has NOTHING to do with this, because it's about them adjusting to the league not about their size. This is a different league where there are 6-10 and 7-foot guys playing PF and SF. You don't compare 6-9 players to 7-footers? I guess we can't compare Malone to Dirk then when they're matched-up huh? Or Webber to Dirk right? You can compare 6-9 to 7-footers where I grow up if the situation dictates it.
     
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  11. Live

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    Let me amend that:

    Amare dribbles the ball (i.e. has better 'handles') better than Malone. Malone is the superior passer by far, however.
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    That's unfortunate, unless you wish to see Boki spend a couple of months on IR.

    The guy is still rehabbing from surgery. He has no stamina & his leg still bothers him. He said the other day that he feels great on the court, going full speed, for about 2-3 minutes at a time. It's early, he's young, give him some time. Comparing him to Langhi is comical.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    I think I'll get the drop on everyone by starting the "We should have got Qyntel Woods" thread before we play Portland tonight. Then, when he dunks on us, everyone can jump on my bandwagon. :)
     
  14. Kayman

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    Good points, hp. BTW, I see Rudy is talking about your observations in his teleconference...
     
  15. heypartner

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    RocketsMillenium,

    I apologize for misreading that you said Boki could be more explosive than Amare and Griffin.

    forgive me??

    *smooch*

    I still won't compare 7'0 to 7-1' players like Nitwitz, Gasol and Tsiki to Boki. My omnicient being, they are 7 foot 1 ... Good Omnicient Being!!! If Boki were 7 foot 1, he would have gone top 4 in the draft....there is a difference.
     
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    LOL, that's ok, group hug! :) I don't mean to make it sound like I'm comparing them as players, I'm not. Boki is closer to, say Mike Miller or a Shawn Marion, or a Clyde Drexler then those guys you mentioned in the respect that he is a slasher who goes to the basket and finishes, while guys like Dirk, P Gasol and Tsiki are more closely related to Garnett or someone like that. But I compare him to Dirk in the respect that Dirk struggled his first year in the league mainly because of confidence and adjusting to a new league. Dirk clearly had the ability, but he just didn't know what to do with it. Nachbar's the same way. That's all I mean. They may be different type of players, but they're coming into similar situations, a new league playing a different style in a different culture, with teams coming off of a bad season looking to make some noise. Boki may produce this year, but I suspect next year is the year when he'll break out.
     
  17. heypartner

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    cool...i just read it. thx for pointing it out. Sounds like he has no concerns over the opposition using 3s to guard Eddie....in a "bring it" manner.
     

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