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Did We Just Add More Assets to the Stockpile?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketMania1991, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    OMG - amidst background of labor strife - you're telling me that nobody was willing to give up the farm for Dana Barros redux - a 5 9 shooting guard - and an aging glue guy? Quelle horreur.

    I share your frustration - I just don't share your expectation that anything could have been done in short term


    My biggest issue was or is not starting the rebuild in 2k9.
     
  2. DCkid

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    A double whammy of questions marks? You don't know about his knee and you don't know about his extension.

    Also, plenty of evidence to hypothesize that both would be negatives.

    That's what I call...
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  3. Shaud

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    Tracy McGrady was traded for almost nothing?

    Exactly what trade are you referring to/
     
  4. Raven

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    You nailed it.
     
  5. Phillyrocket

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    SAT Question:

    Battlefightin' : Texans

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    Assets : _____


    A. Liabilities
    B. Rocket Scrubs
    C. 2009 lotto picks
    D. Clutchfans delusions
     
  6. JCDenton

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    Didn't the Rockets go ahead and give up 2 starters for nothing today?
     
  7. kjayp

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    Didn't get the superstar we all hoped for.. but turnng a couple expiring contracts into a couple 1st rd picks and a couple young players, aint a bad day...
    Morery basically, pulled the plug on the season... gonna give the youngsters some court time (who knew bud could go for 30? PPats performance...), increase their value, package em with some picks... and try again in the offseason for a superstar (or maybe move up in a 2fer1...)
    All in all, i'd hoped for something better and more immediate, but at least we didnt overpay for a Stromile Swift type.... and hopefully, better seasons ahead!
     
  8. TEXNIFICENT

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    This hurts dammit! :eek:
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    If you bidded with no expectation to win, fine. But, Morey been telling us for a year now that he's collecting all these assets and he's going to flip them for a franchise player like they did in Boston before he came down. If he was outbid, he was outbid. But, should he have been on this fool's errand of trying to turn multiple roleplayers into Carmelo Anthony in the first place? That he even tried to do it when his assets couldn't come close to competing with the market suggests to me he overvalued his assets.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    What was the opportunity cost of the "fool's errand" of the last year or so?

    The "assets" he attempted to use were all basically conjured up out of literally nothing.

    Brooks was a late 1st rounder, Expiring contracts, Courtney Lee conjured out of a bad contract, BUdinger a nothing 2nd rounder, Scola came from a pile of fetid unused feta, Lowry came from washed up Rafer - the list goes on and on.

    The alternative to not stockpiling these assets, was....letting nothing remain nothing - or worse, holding onto negative value assets.

    The fact that 1 < 2 does not mean that you're not better off going with 1 instead of 0 (unless you'[re envisioning a full tank scenario...which is another matter)

    The whole semantic thing about "overvaluing" is just dumb, not even going to get into that unless you can tell me there was a better deal on the table that we turned down due to the perception that something would materialize that didn't.
     
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  11. DCkid

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    I don't really see how people aren't getting this. No lottery picks. No cap space. What other options are there?

    I guess people would have preferred holding onto Rafer, holding the Greek T-Mac for ransom just for the fun of it, letting the real T-Mac leave for nothing, drafting the typical no-impact late first and second round picks that are out of the league before there rookie contract is up? :confused:

    It's like being mad at someone for turning **** into copper (and even silver once or twice).
     
  12. Corpusfan

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    Having assets is starting to sound like code for "this team stinks."



     
  13. Nolocke

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    This board is starting to turn into KoolaidFans. Stop drinkin what the Rockets front office is selling and think for yourselves.

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  14. thetatomatis

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    We added draft picks for rebuilding. We added a center because we have no size. We added a backup guard who is a backup and does well at his job. There are no assets here. The trade deadline proved we have no assets anyone wants. Time to start drafting well, and stockpiling draft picks. Stockpile cash for a huge signing as well. New era. No assets. Just rebuilding.
     
  15. Rockets_4_life

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    People forget that their are two trade frenzy's in the year, and the next one is the 2011 NBA Draft. Which the Rockets will have multiple picks(one lottery) and young players, to package up and move up on draft night. We already know of one team that will be willing to get out of the top 5 if they don't get the specific player their looking for and thats Minny.

    Hypothetical: Let's say their(Minny) in position to draft either PF Sullinger or SF Jones, they'd be open to moving the pick because they already have PF Love and SF Beasley at those spots. There's where the rockets can come in and move up on draft night.

    This is why I like these(thabeet & Dragic) trades, it sets us up great for a draft night deal. The only thing to do now is to develop our young talent for both trade value and developing talent purposes.
     
  16. el_locoteee

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    Dragic is a team option so If Houston see no future they can trade him or let him go, so he is basically an expire. An Thabeet have only next year guarantee.

    So we trade 2 expiring for 1 year $5 million (with option to keep them or trade them) and 2 draft picks.

    Pretty go to me for what was out there.

    I like a guy like Perkins but we he is a FA who is used to winning I don't think he is interested in rebuilding here.

    We going to have to wait to see what Morey can do in the FA with the picks an assets and maybe land a good FA or Draft a good player.

    But for what it was out there it was decent to good.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    Classless low blow @ DD.
     
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  18. BEAT LA

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    It's obvious (at least to me) Morey wants to find a star. He drafted Brooks, so he has the right to trade him for a lotto pick and a late first rounder. With all of these picks, who knows, Morey might get lucky and draft a star.

    He can easily bring back Shane to the Rockets by matching his highest offer.

    Brooks had to go. Sure he publicly apologized to the Rockets, but it's only a matter of time before he starts moaning again when we don't play him. We are better off without him.

    I don't know what you guys want. Deron Williams and Carmel Anthony aren't gonna get us a championship ring. Sure they will make us relevant, but I think we are relevant as long as we make the playoffs. Williams can help us win more games now, but he already said he wants to join forces with Carmelo and Amare to save the planet.

    All you guys seem to care about is winning more games. I want another championship. Those teams take time to build. They don't magically happen. The best trade deadline deal to date is Drexler to Houston, and even then the Rockets were already the defending champs.
     
  19. 9495

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    Assets are like apples - you can't eat too many of them, and you can't stockpile them 'cause they will rot, unless they are future apples. So turning some rotting apples into future apples is a good thing. Too bad small apples don't grow into big apples once they are picked.
     
  20. Disciple of RP

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    Didn't you hear? Morey owns the orchard but he knows how to make better, more efficient apples..you're a jerk and nobody takes you seriously if you don't at least have the BBIQ to understand that Morey has done everything a Wizard could do to make Houston competitive.

    I mean, come on! The guy was FORCED to work around Yao. It's like, totally not his fault that the Rockets suck. Not one bit. He needs time to build HIS roster. Don't you SEE that?
     

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