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Did this girl deserve a beating?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. Honey Bear

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    This is the big pink elephant in the room that a lot of people will look past because they want to be seen as politically correct or having corporate savvy to boost their self worth.

    But some like it hot. And some like it real.

    And questions need to be asked.

    Forget about the clip. Historically, blacks have been oppressed in this country and have the right to be edgy when slang depicting these situations are brought up. But why isn't there an uproar when African Americans use the same slang in the media? You want to set a standard, then stick to that standard. Muslims with long beards don't like being called terrorists, and at the same time they don't refer to each other as terrorists. It's as simple as that.

    The difference here is words like "honky", "*****" and "spic" aren't thrown around by their own respective races. On the other hand, I've played ball on the streets and heard the word ****** tossed around every 2-3 minutes. And these guys can hold some intelligent conversations.

    Why must people create barriers and an "us" vs. "them" mentality, then use the same reasoning to feel victimized.
     
  2. Xerobull

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    In my great experience, I can say this.

    That girl is the vocals for her daddy. Racist, angry mofo.

    ....and she more than likely bones any dude who approaches her in a dbag way, no matter the race.
     
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  3. durvasa

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    So you acknowledge that the word is offensive because of the manner in which it was used, historically, by non-black people in referencing black people. If some black people choose to use the word amongst themselves, that's their choice, but it has no bearing on whether anyone else should use it. And its not hypocritical for those black people to be offended when a white person says it, because the connotations behind the word change depending on the race of the person using it. Why? Again, just look at the history of the word.
     
  4. DudeWah

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    Not to actually bite on this thread.

    But what exactly is the connotation when black people refer to each other as that word??
     
  5. tamericus

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    I think the issue isn't as simple as stated. Not every black person throws it around as you say, nor are offended by it.

    When you say black people use it in the media, I assume you mean rap videos? I would hardly consider that a prime example of an African-American.

    Also even if it is tossed around, does that make it okay to use it as an intentional derogatory statement?
     
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    No white person has the right to drop the "N" bomb, ever.

    I also think men are way too casual about throwing around the "B" word, women have also endured systematic oppression, were denied the vote, etc...etc...

    Probably wouldn't kill us if we were ALL more civil to each other...nah...too much to hope for.
     
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    Why is it offensive when an Asian says it? Or a Latino? They weren't the oppressors of blacks.
     
  8. durvasa

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    Is it not just self-evident why it would be more offensive when a racial slur is used against a person of a particular race by someone not of that race? If the n-word is used amongst black people, then in that context it no longer evokes the idea of a person being put down based on his race.
     
  9. v3.0

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    oh Ronny, wonder what planted the seed for this thread...

    anyways that video would have been way more interesting if the girl was put in south central LA and re-enacted her actions.


    The context at that point evokes just plain ignorance.

    I mean, in a casual convo between 2 black friends, I get that. But do they realize what they casually use the history of that word? Or is it accepted that the word has been reinvented by black people to be used only by themselves in that casual connotation? They deserve that leeway, right?
     
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    Why is she not naked is the more underlying question here
     
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  11. bladeage

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    i didn't even watch the video or read any replies, but I say yes.
     
  12. Bandwagoner

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    WTF I was expecting a video of a beat down. Yet it was some homo and a girl screaming at each other.

    WEAK!
     
  13. DudeWah

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    I still want to know what the connotation is when black people use it amongst themselves.
     
  14. v3.0

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    they invented their own way of saying "dood", "girlfriend", or "vato"...
     
  15. RocketsPimp

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    How about when singing a rap song that uses the word?
     
  16. durvasa

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    How black people choose to use the word in casual conversation, if at all, is their business. But when the usage of the word cuts across racial boundaries, as in the posted video, that should be universally condemned.
     
  17. v3.0

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    Not to nitpick, but in the scenario of 2 best friends (one black the other another race), the other race friend can't use it, even though their friendship is good enough that they are cool with using that kind of language. Right?

    Yeah I know it depends on personal comfort level between people, but the connotation of the word has been muddled by the casual usage of it in today's world. The true meaning behind the word is still horrible, but condemning the word itself is kinda tough when it's used so casually amongst the very people it was meant to be used against. Can't help you fight the battle much when you don't take the cause of the war seriously yourself.
     
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  18. durvasa

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    If its a private conversation, his black friend is cool with it, and he's not using the word in a manner that is intentionally demeaning, then I don't have a problem with it.
     
  19. Prince

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    A nasty video.

    SEems to me that calling a woman a b**** is equally hurting as calling a black person a n*****.

    Everyone has a choice. You can see in the video that 1 woman acted as a b and 2 men acted like n. The rest chose to stay calm and composed, showing that they have a pure clean heart and mind.
     
  20. moestavern19

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    What are you ***** ******* talking about?
     

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