If you take the top 10 leading rushers in the nfl last year, only 3 (Edge,T.Jones,and L.T.) were drafted in the top 10. The other were 17th pick or below and even some 4 and 5th rders in their to boot. Do i think Bush will become a good player? Yes once they find a way to keep him on the field which is the biggest problem. Williams can impact the game for 60 plays!How different would this team would have been if peppers played for us? Thats what the Texans saw. Most scouts said that he had the coverage rolled to him over 60% of the time freeing Manny Lawson and John McCargo to make plays. Not only that, he's a good enough player that inside the 5 you can run a fade route with him. Look, talk about his health, but Davis when healthy is a 1400yd 50 catch 10-14 touchdown back. How many late rd rbs have denver had and look at their success. I'm still a Titans fan also and i think if handled right Young will do fine in titans blue also.
Maybe we have more "stuff" to learn? I'm sorry if I upset you, I definitely don't take this seriously. In fact based on your post, you seem to be taking it much more seriously than I (or is it me?). I honestly can't understand how people could be so upset about this that they would change favorite teams much less do it without seeing the players even take the field in the NFL. I think many people here are probably even more adamant in their opinions than the scouts who do the evaluations. Do you think any of the Texans guys who wanted Bush threatened to quit and go to another team over the decision? It doesn't seem worth it to add more stress to your life because of who the Texans pick, especially since everybody is so often wrong. When people evaluate Vince Young or generally quarterbacks, I find it difficult for people to make any kind of judgment unless they were in the seats for his games. When watching on TV you are only shown the pocket, not the receivers running their routes. How can you say he's good or not good at his reads? I'm sorry if my response came off as too serious or whatever. That wasn't my intent. I hope everybody finds some sort of "football peace". If you want to become fans of another team, go for it. I don't think sitting around and complaining about something in the past will really lead anywhere, however. Wishing for Vince or Reggie is like wishing your girlfriend would get back together with you after she dumps you. It's not going to happen and your life will be much better once you accept it and move on.
Fine, but I don't see that passing on Reggie Bush is a heartbreaking event on par with the Houston sports parade of doom. I like Williams and think he has a better chance of helping the Texans win over the long term than Bush.
Unfortunately for you, that was not your point. Since you jumped a discussion which started with this: Having a Montana (obviously my favorite example) is a d*mn good thing. It does not happen often, but when it does it's a d*mn good thing. It is not mutually exclusive of having a balanced team, and it certainly does not HURT you. I NEVER said that you need superstars, but you chimed in where the argument was being made against the success of flashy, sexy sizzle. If you have the opportunity to get a single superstar over a single very good player you get the superstar. We don't know who will pan out, but even though MW is considered the conservative choice, he is still a risk also. I would also argue that superstars help you pick-up top FAs later, good players...not so much. How many people wanted to play w/ Yao?
No it's not. I considered qualifying the original post but it didn't add anything...regular posters (outside of D&D) wouldn't care enough to nit pick so I didn't add it. I've spent enough time in D&D here to have considered the interpretation.
Why did you even respond in the first place then? Why do you argue that marketing is different now? My original post was not whether people see Brady jerseys...
I've gotten used to the pick time will tell. But one thing that is starting to upset me is CC going on national TV and basically saying FU fans. I get that they don't care but how about "we hope the fans will be patient with us as we try to build a championship football team". The "does it look like I care?" comments are just stupid for somebody with his track record to be making. I guarantee if we had a poll on the BBS for every pick in Texan history we couldn't have done any worse. This guys football decisons were reason for him to go 6 months ago but with him talking down on fans I want his butt out of town more than ever.
Fortunately for me, I absolutely know my point. Whatever point at jumped in the discussion is absolutely irrelevant. I do not believe that not having a superstar is better than having one. I believe that a building a better team on both sides of the ball is more important than simply taking a flashy player (and I think that was Since75's point as well). If you're in the position to take the flashy player and he fits an immediate need on a 2-14 team, then that's great, by all means, draft Reggie Bush over a DeAngelo Williams. However, as has been our entire point, it's been proven that teams can win Super Bowls without flashy offenses. You simply need a great team. Since that is the case, I'm not devestated or feel betrayed that the Texans decided to go with a player that is not only a clear need, but if he's successful, can help improve the entire defense by himself (more pass rush equals more likelihood of success for the secondary, etc.). I'd love to have a Joe Montana on our team, but I'm certainly not going to be angry about taking the top defensive player in the draft when after the free agency period, that was obviously our biggest need. You obviously appreciate the player more than the team. You sound like you would appreciate a Barry Sanders-type career than your team winning a Super Bowl. That's fine. Again, just don't expect football teams to be built that way. Kubiak's not in the business of providing highlights and individual memories for fans. He doesn't care about whose jersey sells the most. He wants to win. He obviously feels that adding a potentially (which, btw, all draft picks are all potential at this point) game-changing DE to a defensively inept team is more important than adding the flashy player at a position that's not a top need.
It absolutely is. And your ability to argue in the D&D does nothing for your point here. Because it *is*, and that makes a difference. You undervalued Brady's marketability by making an unfair comparison to one of the greatest ever. My point is, Brady's extremely marketable, will most certainly be remembered in 20 years, and he doesn't have to be Joe Montana to be those things. Because I enjoy the conversation? I didn't jump in to start a fight. If you don't like my posts, you're welcome to employ the "ignore" feature.
Brady's jersey was the third most popular last year behind Moss and Vick. Cohen originally used a four year-old stat that had Jeff Garcia in the top 10 most popular jerseys to try and prove he isn't marketable. No dice.
Sadly, regrettably we Rox fans have seen a franchise lose the identity the Legend gave us without much solace.
